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Topic: C6 neck tuned to G ?? |
Terry Sneed
From: Arkansas,
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Posted 20 Jul 2013 5:01 pm
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Does anybody tune your C neck to a G open, and use it for a dobro sound with a Match Bro or similar unit? I don't play much C6 and was thinking about getting a Match Bro, and using the back neck to get a dobro sound. I do play dobro a little, and I think I'd use the back neck a lot more if I could get a good dobro sound out of it. I heard Kevin Clemons on the Presely's show tonight, and he was using a Match Bro or something, to get a good dobro sound on his back neck. Which unit is the best for a good dobro sound?
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Lane Gray
From: Topeka, KS
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Posted 20 Jul 2013 6:13 pm
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Sinkler has been pursuing a TIFKAD sound (Dobro being a trademark currently held by Gibson).
He also has a lever which combines with P7 to give you a 6 string Dobro tuning on strings 3-8.
But if you tune it to G, it's not your C neck... _________________ 2 pedal steels, a lapStrat, and an 8-string Dobro (and 3 ukes)
More amps than guitars, and not many effects |
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Richard Sinkler
From: aka: Rusty Strings -- Missoula, Montana
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Posted 20 Jul 2013 7:54 pm
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Actually, my pedal 7 is the knee lever. My pedal 9 is the weird one that when combined with the lever, gives me the G dobro tuning. I will admit that I rarely use it. It does work quite well though. I should really get into it more. The couple of songs I do that I use the dobro simulator, are more of a ped-a-bro type of thing.
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P9 RKR
D
E
C.........D
A.........B
G
E...D
C...B
A...G
F
C
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_________________ Carter D10 8p/8k, Dekley S10 3p/4k C6 setup,Regal RD40 Dobro, Recording King Professional Dobro, NV400, NV112,Ibanez Gio guitar, Epiphone SG Special (open D slide guitar) . Playing for 54 years and still counting. |
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Lane Gray
From: Topeka, KS
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Posted 21 Jul 2013 1:55 am
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Part II? Or is the electronic bit a secret now? _________________ 2 pedal steels, a lapStrat, and an 8-string Dobro (and 3 ukes)
More amps than guitars, and not many effects |
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Richard Sinkler
From: aka: Rusty Strings -- Missoula, Montana
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Posted 21 Jul 2013 7:30 am
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I used to have a Match-bro, Then a Bo-Bro. But when I needed money, I had to sell the Bo-Bro and knew it was just a Boss EQ. I opened it up and looked at how the sliders were set. I now use a $30 Danelectro 7 band EQ, set it up like the Bo-Bro, but pulled the 2nd slider down to 1/2 way instead of all the way up. Since I play with a lot of bass on my amp, this thinned the dobro sound out a little more to my liking. I was getting kind of a "honk" on the lower strings.
I can honestly recommend the Danelectro. Been using it for over 6 months now. My only recommendation is to buy one of those leg clamps that the Forum or Show Pro sells, super glue it to the EQ, and clip in on the guitar leg. The cases on the Danelectro are plastic and I would worry about stomping on it too hard. No need to spend $250 or more for a name brand simulator or $100+ for the Boss EQ. I also heard from someone who is using a Behringer EQ and it is working just fine.
On my website, if you go to the audio page, there is a version of Mercury Blues that I switch between the dobro sound and regular steel. This is the Danelectro, played more as a ped-a-bro on the E9th neck. LIve recording, not highest quality. _________________ Carter D10 8p/8k, Dekley S10 3p/4k C6 setup,Regal RD40 Dobro, Recording King Professional Dobro, NV400, NV112,Ibanez Gio guitar, Epiphone SG Special (open D slide guitar) . Playing for 54 years and still counting. |
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David Higginbotham
From: Lake Charles, Louisiana, USA
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Posted 21 Jul 2013 8:06 am
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Tune your first string to G and hold the 7th pedal. You will have an open G tuning on 1,3,4,5 with E's on 2 and 6. |
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John Billings
From: Ohio, USA
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Posted 21 Jul 2013 11:33 am
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I have an S-10 Shobud tuned to an extended Low Bass G-Tuning. Still experimenting. Mucho fun. |
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Terry Sneed
From: Arkansas,
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Posted 21 Jul 2013 6:30 pm dobro
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Well shucks, I just tuned my back neck to G tuning DBGDBG (3rd string through 8th) and it would take a lot of practice to play it like a dobro, mainly because of the difference in string spacing. I think I'll just leave it tuned to C6 and forget about dobro on steel.
terry |
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Lane Gray
From: Topeka, KS
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Posted 21 Jul 2013 6:49 pm
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The practice is worth it, for it doesn't take much. _________________ 2 pedal steels, a lapStrat, and an 8-string Dobro (and 3 ukes)
More amps than guitars, and not many effects |
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John Billings
From: Ohio, USA
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Posted 21 Jul 2013 7:55 pm
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Low to high; DGDGBDG, HIGH THREE STILL FOOLING WITH. Pedals one, two ,three do pretty much what you would expect. I didn't do it for dobro, did it for Blues. |
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Richard Sinkler
From: aka: Rusty Strings -- Missoula, Montana
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Posted 22 Jul 2013 7:24 am
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To add to this subject, I also have my pedal 8 with changes that work with the dobro tuning. It also works with my pedal 7 (which is probably your pedal 6). One of my favorite pedals on my C neck as it gives me the F root in the middle of the tuning that is otherwise missing. My P8 along with the dobro pedals engaged gives me a 7th note for the G chord on string 5, a sharped 5th on string 1 in case I need an augmented chord. With the normal P6 (my P7), it gives me an F in the middle, replacing the 9th tone with a root tone, and the D# on string 1 gives me a high 7th tone for the F chord.
My complete C6th tuning
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LKL LKV LKR 6 7 8 9 RKL RKR
D............................D#
E........................F
C..........D..........................B.....D
A..........Bb...Bb/B........................B
G...................F#.......F
E.......................D#.......D
C...C#...........................B
A................................G
F...E...............F#
C...A...............D
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_________________ Carter D10 8p/8k, Dekley S10 3p/4k C6 setup,Regal RD40 Dobro, Recording King Professional Dobro, NV400, NV112,Ibanez Gio guitar, Epiphone SG Special (open D slide guitar) . Playing for 54 years and still counting. |
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John Groover McDuffie
From: LA California, USA
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Posted 24 Jul 2013 2:07 pm
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TIFKAD ???
FWIW Marty Rifkin has at times set up the back neck of his D-10 with the 8-string A6 tuning that he uses on his Stringmaster. |
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Lane Gray
From: Topeka, KS
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Posted 24 Jul 2013 11:14 pm
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TIFKAD came about a few years ago when the Gibson Guitar Company started flexing its muscles regarding its trademark of the Dobro brand. It stands for
That
Instrument
Formerly
Known
As
Dobro _________________ 2 pedal steels, a lapStrat, and an 8-string Dobro (and 3 ukes)
More amps than guitars, and not many effects |
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Richard Sinkler
From: aka: Rusty Strings -- Missoula, Montana
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Posted 25 Jul 2013 3:57 am
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The hell with Gibson. They are still dobros to many (I usually call them resophonic guitars or dobros). Many that aren't familiar with the instrument may know what a dobro is, but may not know it as a resophonic guitar. Not that it is all that important. It's like Kleenex and Jello. Those names have carried over to other brands of the same product. _________________ Carter D10 8p/8k, Dekley S10 3p/4k C6 setup,Regal RD40 Dobro, Recording King Professional Dobro, NV400, NV112,Ibanez Gio guitar, Epiphone SG Special (open D slide guitar) . Playing for 54 years and still counting. |
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John Billings
From: Ohio, USA
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Mule Ferguson
From: N Wilkesboro NC,
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Posted 25 Jul 2013 6:27 am
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Resonateurs
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YlOSE8xq2RA
Mule _________________ Emmons La Grande D10, Zum Encore, Multicord,Marlen S10 1972, Nashville 112, Evans HVP #2, Peavey Profex ll, Martin, Merle Travis D28M Bigsby Neck.
D28 Henderson, Dobro and Tut Bro. Fender Tele, Stelling Stagehorn Banjo |
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John Groover McDuffie
From: LA California, USA
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Posted 25 Jul 2013 12:02 pm
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Yes, Keenex and Xerox are the names that I use as examples when I explain to people that Dobro is both a brand name and a type of instrument combined with a playing style!
Many people I know who aren't savvy about the steel guitar family of instruments still call resonator guitar "dobro" even when it is played bottleneck style. This drives me as crazy as when people refer to my PSG as a "slide" or compliment me with the phrase "Great slide, man!"
I always fear being for a session and showing up with the wrong instrument and gear based on these misnomers, so I try and educate people when I have the chance. |
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John Billings
From: Ohio, USA
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Posted 25 Jul 2013 12:13 pm
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A Gibson Telecaster? They have no shame! |
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Alan Brookes
From: Brummy living in Southern California
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Posted 25 Jul 2013 12:18 pm
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I play standard G tuning on Dobro and C6 on the near neck of my D10s. The only difference between C6 and C is the extra string shoved in the middle, and the only difference between C and G is the pitch; the intervals are the same.
Everything that you play in G Dobro tuning is playable on C6 if you just take account of the extra string. |
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Larry Bressington
From: Nebraska
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Posted 29 Jul 2013 10:13 am
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Yes. _________________ A.K.A Chappy. |
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Terry Sneed
From: Arkansas,
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Posted 29 Jul 2013 1:32 pm dobro
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Thanks Alan, and all for the info. Might give it another try.
terry |
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