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Jack Hanson
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San Luis Valley, USA
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Posted 29 Jul 2013 8:51 am |
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Anyone have a nice original Emmons VP that they would like to sell for a reasonable price?
I would like to have a spare. It's the later model with the fixed-pin.
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Lynn Stafford
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Ridgefield, WA USA
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Posted 29 Jul 2013 9:18 am Emmons Volume Pedal
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Hi Jack,
You didn't say which style you're looking for; fixed or drop-pin.
I've acquired several of the drop-pin style, which are designed to fit the earlier guitars (with the small angle bracket that is screwed to the inside of the pedal rack channel).
If you need the earlier style, I'm sure I can be of help to you. Otherwise, good luck in your search!
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Lynn Stafford
STEEL GUITAR WEST
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Previous Emmons Authorized Dealer & Service Technician (original factory is now closed)
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Jack Hanson
From:
San Luis Valley, USA
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Posted 29 Jul 2013 10:22 am
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Lynn,
I did, of course, know that there were two different style Emmons pedals. But now I really feel like an idiot, because I was unaware that the two types were not interchangeable. The one that came with my D-10 fatback, which I believe is a ’73, is one of the newer, fixed-pin models.
Is it correct to assume that the drop-pin style pedal will not work on a pedal rack which is set up for a fixed-pin pedal?
The pedal rack for my guitar has two flat metal tabs attached to the bottom rail, not the angle bracket screwed to the inside that you describe. It also has a pair of holes drilled into the face of the pedal rack which do nothing but hold a pair of machine screws and nuts. Would these holes have originally been drilled for that angle bracket? Could it be that those extra holes would suggest that it has been converted for use with the later model fixed-pin pedals?
This is a long-winded statement to say the fixed-pin pedal is likely the one I’m interested in. Unless a drop-pin model could be made to work.
Thanks for your expertise! |
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Lynn Stafford
From:
Ridgefield, WA USA
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Posted 29 Jul 2013 1:53 pm Pedal attachment Syles
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Hi Jack,
Well, your guitar was originally set up for the drop-pin pedal because the two holes you're describing were there to mount a small angle clip with a 5/16" hole in it that lines up right below the hole on the channel. The pin just drops through the two holes along with the rod end bearing that is mounted to the pedal.
Lots of folks have removed those clips so they could use a fixed-pin pedal when all they really had to do was unscrew it, turn it over and reinstall it.
At this point, you simply have a choice of using a newer Emmons pedal, or an older one (by reinstalling another clip). If you are concerned about originality, I'd go with the latter.
I happen to use a Telonics pedal, equipped with a Hilton Emmons style bracket. It will actually fit either style of pedal bar.
Anyway, if you decide you'd like to use the older style, I have several in stock, along with those clips. As soon as I get the time, I'm going to start restoring a few of these pedals I've acquired and then sell them here on this great Forum.
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Best regards,
Lynn Stafford
STEEL GUITAR WEST
http://www.steelguitarwest.com
Steel Guitar Technician (Restoration, Set-up, Service and Repair work)
Previous Emmons Authorized Dealer & Service Technician (original factory is now closed)
ZumSteel Authorized Service Technician
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Chris Lucker
From:
Los Angeles, California USA
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Posted 29 Jul 2013 2:31 pm
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You do not need to reinstall the clip. If you have the two foot tabs, you can use the newer style drop pin pedal (the only style prop pin pedal you will find) or the fixed pin interchangeably .
Here is a photo of a me holding up in the air a 1970s pedal rack with the center pin holder piece removed and a drop pin pedal staying in place even without a drop pin installed.
I have the pin sitting on top of the pedal to show that a drop pin pedal does not need the pin guide to fit appropriately. The pin may be dropped in.
This photo looks tipped, but the pedal is parallel to the floor.
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Red Bellies, Bigsbys and a lot of other guitars.
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Jack Hanson
From:
San Luis Valley, USA
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Posted 29 Jul 2013 2:59 pm
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Lynn,
I have learned more about the Emmons VP in the last few hours through this Forum than I had learned in the last thirty-plus years.
Is it correct to assume that a drop-pin pedal will mount to my pedal rack either with or without the angle clip? Or does the clip need to be installed for a drop-pin pedal to work properly?
Thanks, Jack |
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Chris Lucker
From:
Los Angeles, California USA
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Posted 29 Jul 2013 3:06 pm
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I am sorry, Jack, but do you think I am using smoke and mirrors in the photo above?
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Jack Hanson
From:
San Luis Valley, USA
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Posted 29 Jul 2013 3:06 pm
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Chris,
As they say, a picture is worth a thousand words. It would appear that a drop-pin pedal would be easier to attach without an angle bracket by virtue of threading the pin through only two holes instead of three.
Thanks, Jack |
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Chris Lucker
From:
Los Angeles, California USA
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Posted 29 Jul 2013 3:09 pm
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If you have the tabs for the pedal feet, you do not need the middle pin guide. The tabs make your pedal rack work for either fixed pin or drop pin pedals.
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Clyde Mattocks
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Kinston, North Carolina, USA
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Posted 29 Jul 2013 5:18 pm
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I have both types and use them interchangably. The hole in my pedal bar is drilled out for the drop pin, but by inserting the fixed pin in the hole and cranking down on the thumb screws, it stays put fine.
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Carl Mesrobian
From:
Salem, Massachusetts, USA
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Posted 30 Jul 2013 6:15 am
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If anyone needs rubber feet >>>
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Jack Hanson
From:
San Luis Valley, USA
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Posted 1 Aug 2013 9:22 pm Emmons Volume Pedal
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| Still seeking a good Emmons VP. Fixed-pin preferred. Drop-pin will be considered. |
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James Marlowe
From:
Florida, USA
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Posted 2 Aug 2013 10:39 am
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Jack, I emailed you.
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Life has many choices. Eternity has TWO. I choose Heaven.
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Jack Hanson
From:
San Luis Valley, USA
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Posted 3 Aug 2013 7:49 am Emmons Volume Pedal
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This post can be closed out. James Marlowe in Florida came through with an offer I could not refuse! Thank you, James!
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James Marlowe
From:
Florida, USA
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Posted 3 Aug 2013 8:26 am
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You're welcome!
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J.R. Marlowe
Life has many choices. Eternity has TWO. I choose Heaven.
Black '95 Zumsteel SD10, 4+5;Black Mullen RP SD10, 4+5
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