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Topic: Must-know country riffs for an E9 player? |
John Scanlon
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Posted 25 Jul 2013 1:52 pm |
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I almost asked about "country standards," but I'm asking less about a list of standard country songs that go over well in a bar, and more about a specific, well-known PSG part (possibly whole song) that people on here believe is basic, required knowledge for a country E9 player. I did a forum search on this, and found some similar threads, but not quite this exact question.
Just curious what folks here believe are the essential licks for a country E9 player? I'm talking about famous parts, like the steel part on "Together Again," which for me would definitely qualify.
I know there will be some split opinions on this, as well as some who may say nothing is required, but I think y'all get my drift. Just picking your collective brains.
I'll start:
1) Together Again
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Quentin Hickey
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Greg Johnson
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Greencastle, Pennsylvania, USA
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Posted 25 Jul 2013 3:01 pm
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Ditto. John may have been the best country picker ever.
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Lane Gray
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Topeka, KS
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Posted 25 Jul 2013 3:16 pm
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Brumley's ride on I Sang Dixie
because those two step shuffle remain popular and any place with a dance floor, I would say Jimmy Day's ride on Crazy Arms remains something worth learning.
Weldon's ride on Right or Wrong?
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Bob Carlucci
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Candor, New York, USA
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Cal Sharp
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the farm in Kornfield Kounty, TN
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Posted 25 Jul 2013 5:30 pm
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Just a few:
Half A Mind
A Way To Survive.
Waltz Across Texas
Under Your Spell Again
15 Years Ago
The Bottle Let Me Down
The Udder Woman
Rainy Day Worman
Ride, Ride, Ride
Once You've Had the Best
If you can render a reasonable facsimile of these intros and turnrounds - and more importantly, understand how they are constructed - you can extrapolate from there and be able to cut most real country gigs, if you can find any.
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Richard Sinkler
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aka: Rusty Strings -- Missoula, Montana
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Posted 25 Jul 2013 5:43 pm
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| Quentin Hickey wrote: |
Look at us,
and for that matter anything that John Hughey plays |
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John Scanlon
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Jackson, Mississippi, USA
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Posted 25 Jul 2013 6:05 pm
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Thanks for good responses. Surprised but glad to see NRPS on here. I personally agree. Buddy Cage is one of my favorites, and I began studying Mickey Adams's lesson on this a few years ago.
What version on Bottle, Cal? L.Green / Byrds?
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Cal Sharp
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Lane Gray
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Topeka, KS
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Posted 25 Jul 2013 6:32 pm
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And remember, Moon had the intro. Also had the intro on Mama Tried
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Pete Finney
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Nashville Tn.
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Posted 25 Jul 2013 7:03 pm
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| The intro on the Merle Haggard record of "Mama Tried" is Roy Nichols and James Burton; no steel. |
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Daniel Policarpo
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Posted 25 Jul 2013 7:28 pm
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| I would also like to suggest "Slowly" sung by Webb Pierce. Though Bud Isaacs' intro and solo are technically simple by today's standards, this song goes to show how effective simple can be. Not to mention its influence on prompting about half the lap steelers around the world to start rethinking their wire hangers' significance. |
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John Scanlon
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Jackson, Mississippi, USA
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Posted 25 Jul 2013 8:13 pm
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| Cal Sharp wrote: |
| John Scanlon wrote: |
What version on Bottle, Cal? L.Green / Byrds? |
The original, Haggard w/Mooney. |
D'oh! Of course. Good call. I've given away my gateway to country and steel - country-rock.
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Calvin Walley
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colorado city colorado, USA
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Posted 26 Jul 2013 7:00 am
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just between you and me
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Norbert Dengler
From:
germany
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Posted 26 Jul 2013 9:26 am
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Hard to play but great, the emmons stuff on "adalida" and "silver threads and golden needles...
Lotsa string one and two... |
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Stuart Legg
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Posted 26 Jul 2013 9:27 am
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Here is a song that I think is essential for any country PSG player.
No intro but a big chunk of all the good country pedal steel cliché you’ll ever need for fill in a country song, all wrapped up in this one song. The best parts starting around the 1:58 point of the song
click here |
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Jack Hanson
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San Luis Valley, USA
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Posted 26 Jul 2013 9:40 am
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| Different Kind Of Flower |
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John Scanlon
From:
Jackson, Mississippi, USA
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Posted 26 Jul 2013 9:44 am
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Kind of surprised no one has thrown in Steel Guitar Rag or Bud's Bounce. Hate to mention that in a way, because I didn't want the power of suggestion to influence, but I expected those to be among the first suggestions.
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Bob Hoffnar
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Austin, Tx
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Posted 26 Jul 2013 10:47 am
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The intro lick to "Sleepwalk" comes in handy.
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Jay Yuskaitis
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Massachusetts, USA
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Posted 26 Jul 2013 1:39 pm riffs???
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| I don't understand why you cannot make up your own riffs, breaks or whatever. When I go to listen to a band, I want to hear John, not Pete, not Lloyd, not Buddy, unless Pete, Lloyd, or Buddy are in the band. Just what is so hard about playing your own thing. Using someones licks or "thing", that everyone is trying for kills the the idea of "being yourself". I know my choice of words are not the greatest. Do you want to live your life as a mimic? I know there will be many cry babies that will say, I need "help". Come on now. Everybody had to start at the beginning, except those playing the only numbers they know, from so called "tabs". Sorry if'n I ruffled any pin feathers. Just my humble opinion! Jay Y. |
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John Scanlon
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Jackson, Mississippi, USA
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Posted 26 Jul 2013 1:55 pm
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In a broader sense, I totally agree, Jay. That's why I was trying to narrow my question. I'm not interested in being a mimic, but I didn't intend to ask what riffs I should cop when soloing / filling on a different tune, but rather, curious what everyone's thoughts were on basic 101 riffs - or maybe I should have said melodies.
To use a six-string comparison example, I don't think I know a rock player who doesn't know say, the break to Sweet Home Alabama, the intro to Brown Eyed Girl, or the lick to Wonderful Tonight. I personally am not crazy about those tunes, and if I ever play them again, it'll be too soon, but they're composed parts of those songs that are essential and recognizable. The same could be said about jazz guys and the melodies to say, Autumn Leaves, Blue Bossa, Green Dolphin Street, etc. I was curious what the collective thought here was on similar things in a country vein on the E9 neck.
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Jimmy Lewis
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Harrisonburg, Louisiana, USA
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Posted 26 Jul 2013 2:19 pm
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| I agree with Bob play your own thing. The other guys ideas are already out there and have been heard 100's of times. Learn the original intros and turnarounds as building blocks but unless it is necessary to play it like the record you need to be creative. |
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Mickey Adams
From:
Bandera Texas
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Posted 26 Jul 2013 2:30 pm
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Teach your Children
Highway 40
Heart That You Own
Panama Red
Lonesome LA Cowboy
Getting Over You Again
Danny Boy..
Just to name a few..!
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John Scanlon
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Jackson, Mississippi, USA
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Lane Gray
From:
Topeka, KS
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Posted 26 Jul 2013 4:51 pm
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Jay, I'd say learn as much as you can from everybody that intrigues you and lights you up. Then every bit of that becomes your "vocabulary." You can hear elements of lots of people in my playing: Emmons; Cage, Charleton, Auldridge; John David Call (remember Pure Prairie League?), Bouton and more. My fiancée says the biggest two in evidence are Auldridge and Buddy Cage. But I sound like me. it took many years before I sounded like me. Blue Bayou sounds like a cross between me and Dugmore, Don't Rock the Jukebox sounds like a cross between me and Paul. in those two instances, I happen to like the themes both guys stated, so I play something close to what they laid down.
I recommend learning them, AND learning to play half a phrase or lick, grafting another snippet to the back side.
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