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Topic: Stormy Monday Blues |
Ulrich Sinn
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California, USA
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Don McGregor
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Memphis, Tennessee
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Posted 10 May 2013 12:32 pm |
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Man! That was FINE!
What tuning? |
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Niels Andrews
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Salinas, California, USA
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Posted 10 May 2013 1:19 pm
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Was that a MSA SS 12 with Reece's C6 tuning?
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Die with Memories. Not Dreams.
Good Stuff like Zum S-12, Wolfe Resoport
MSA SS-12, Telonics Combo. |
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David Mason
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Cambridge, MD, USA
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Posted 10 May 2013 1:47 pm
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| Dear me! That was fine, dude. Duane Allman is the first & largest reason I play steel guitar. It took a 39-year detour through slide guitar, but hey, Bob's your uncle. This was the first song I learned. All the major 6th chords and the minor ones are right there too, in an 8 or 10 or 12-string 6th tuning. What are you using for a bar? |
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Mark Eaton
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Sonoma County in The Great State Of Northern California
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Posted 10 May 2013 1:55 pm
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Ulrich, that was a serious Stormy Monday! 
Nasty and bluesy, but exquisite clean playing.
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Mark |
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Ulrich Sinn
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California, USA
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Posted 10 May 2013 1:58 pm
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Reece Anderson tuning (dropped 1/2 step down to B6) with an SP2 bar. I have an acoustic lunchbox, out of the headphone out into Logic. Line6 M9 for the FX.
Thank you gentlemen! |
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Doug Beaumier
From:
Northampton, MA
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Stephen Gambrell
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Over there
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Posted 10 May 2013 3:53 pm
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ABSOLUTELY! I've heard the ABB do it, heard T-Bone Walker do it--and now I've heard a THIRD definitive version. I've been looking for ways to do stuff like this, ever since I got my McKenna 8-string Reso.
Could you tell me how I'd spell this tuning, on an 8-string guitar? PLEASE???  |
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Niels Andrews
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Salinas, California, USA
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Posted 10 May 2013 3:56 pm
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It is listed here on the forum under copedants/ lap steel and drop the bottom 2 strings.
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Die with Memories. Not Dreams.
Good Stuff like Zum S-12, Wolfe Resoport
MSA SS-12, Telonics Combo. |
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Ulrich Sinn
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California, USA
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Posted 10 May 2013 4:43 pm
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It's really just a high g 8-string c6 tuning with 2 extra strings on top and 2 at the bottom.
And it took me a very long time to realize that.
and wow, thank you, definitive version is quite a strong term.
I would respectfully disagree with that assessment.
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Bill McCloskey
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Posted 10 May 2013 4:55 pm
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| I'll be definitely ripping stuff off of that. |
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Stephen Gambrell
From:
Over there
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Posted 10 May 2013 9:05 pm
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| Ulrich Sinn wrote: |
and wow, thank you, definitive version is quite a strong term.
I would respectfully disagree with that assessment.
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I've been playing that song for 40 years, now. It has knocked me out, 3 times in those 40 years.
First, when I found that Vaug chord.
Second, when Duane and Dickey played those heartbreaking solos on the "Fillmore East" album.
Third, when I finally heard T-Bone do it
And now, when I heard Ulrich Sinn. I don't mean the guitar, I mean, I heard YOU, sir.
Thanks for sharing. I got a dobro to tune.  |
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Stephen Abruzzo
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Philly, PA
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Posted 11 May 2013 4:30 am
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| WOW......Suh-weet playing.........You ought to get "sidetracked" more often. |
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Jay Fagerlie
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Lotus, California, USA
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Posted 11 May 2013 8:33 am
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Ulrich-
Can we get you to enable downloading of this tune?
I definitely want this for my "Steel Guitar" playlists.
I have a "Steel Guitar" thumb drive just for the car...cruising tunes!
T-Bone would be so proud.... |
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Ulrich Sinn
From:
California, USA
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Posted 11 May 2013 6:00 pm
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download enabled: please be my guest!
If I would have known I would have less nonchalant with the recording, meaning better prepared. |
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David Mason
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Cambridge, MD, USA
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Posted 12 May 2013 8:34 am
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| If I would have known I would have less nonchalant with the recording, meaning better prepared. |
And in one of those lovely little things with which we humans are gifted, it probably would've been impossible to play as well.  Your sneaking up on doubled strings to kick the overdrive harder is really well planned out. You don't have to answer this if it's too close to the bone, but:
How much of that would you consider to be improvised?
It certainly has the sense of knowing-what-to-do-when-you-get-there. But loose too, in the good kind of loose. The clean middle section was a good choice too.
P.S. The percussion on your website's "Americana" music was really nice too. I can't quite figure out what you DO from there - "Percussive Maintenance?" - but whatever it is, keep up the good work! |
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Ulrich Sinn
From:
California, USA
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Posted 12 May 2013 3:06 pm
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| How much of that would you consider to be improvised? |
I don't mind at all, typically it works like that:
I find an idea of WHAT kind of thing I want to do. Then try to find something that suits that. e.g. "Tears" (the version on "Young Django" in particular) jumped at me because the tempo is good and so is the key (C minor, meaning all my open strings on dobro are still valid). I start playing around with the theme, mostly to find a road map and signposts. Like what and where on the fretboard. I also try to find backing tracks that are not BIAB.
Then the idea sits around. Sometimes longer, sometimes shorter. "Stormy Monday" was short. Once I get upset that I'm procrastinating with the thing I set a day aside for that (in my professional life I am a freelancer, so there are slow days).
Then I plug in and start recording. A lot of stuff dies right there with a loud curse.
I gave up on the idea that I can do single takes - I just can't - so I record a few complete takes. This tells me how much I actually can do with it. Normally that means I have to trim the backing track down to fewer choruses.
After recording several takes I typically see the structure and try to go for that. By the end of a day I have a few good takes that start to resemble each other.
I take the better pieces and splice them together. No drop-in/drop-out. I don't edit for timing or intonation. I personally find editing takes to a comp acceptable (guess I'm not ready for a Blue Note type of recording). I mean, I want it to sound kind of good but not an outright lie, so it's only fair that the shortcomings stay in to a certain degree. Not 100% documentary style, but that's my general goal of what I want to accomplish with these recordings.
In short it starts out very loose but narrows in focus as the work progresses. Still, I would have to transcribe it if I wanted to repeat it.
There: truth in advertising. Hope I'm making sense, it probably opens up room for discussion! |
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