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Topic: Limited pedal U-12 |
Roxie Klaus
From:
Makawao, Maui, Hawaii, USA
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Posted 23 Mar 2003 2:16 pm |
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Fed-Ex left an old Rus-ler S-12 at my door the other day. It is the standard 3+4 setup. Knowing that it would be limited, I still want to experiment with a U-12 tuning. I play some country but mostly rock (older stuff) and pop (again older stuff.) Any suggestions for pedal setups would be appreciated.
BTW, I do plan to add more pedals as I go. |
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C Dixon
From:
Duluth, GA USA
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Posted 23 Mar 2003 2:43 pm
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With only 3 and 4 I would suggest the following:
F#
D#
G#
E
B
G#
F#
E
D
B
G#
E
Pedal 1 raises 5 and 9 a whole tone.
Pedal 2 raises 3, 6 and 11 a half a tone.
Pedal 3 raises 4, 5 and 8 a whole tone.
LKL raises 4, 8 and 12 a half a tone.
LKR lowers 4, and 8 a half a tone.
RKL raises 1 a whole tone, raises 2 a half a tone, lowers 6 and 11 a whole tone.
RKR lowers 2 a whole tone with half stop and lowers 9 a half a tone.
If you can possibly put a LKV on it, lower 5 and 10 a half a tone with it.
Then play it to your hearts content. And May Jesus bring you joy always,
carl |
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Earnest Bovine
From:
Los Angeles CA USA
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Posted 23 Mar 2003 3:03 pm
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LKL LKR 1 2 3 RKL RKR
F#
D# -D,--C#
G# +A -G
E +F -D#
B ++C#
G# ++A# +A -G
F# -F,--E
E +F -D#
D (D),-C#
B ++C#
G# +A -G
E +F (E),++F#
[This message was edited by Earnest Bovine on 23 March 2003 at 03:06 PM.] |
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Bobby Lee
From:
Cloverdale, California, USA
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Posted 23 Mar 2003 3:36 pm
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You'll have to give up a bit of the E9th if you really want the C6th changes. Consider this: LKL P1 P2 P3 LKR RKL RKR
F# +G
D# -D
G# +A
E +F -D#
B +C# -A#
G# +A
F# -F
E +F -D# -D
B +C#
G#
E +F
B +C# LKR throws it into a B6th tuning, like the standard C6th. P3 is like the standard P5 on C6th, and RKL (with LKR released) is the P6 change. RKR is like the standard C to B lever on C6th, and is also a popular change on E9th.
The main thing lost from the E9th is the standard 3rd pedal. With only 3+4, you can't really get all of the E9th and C6th changes like you can on a true U-12.
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 Bobby Lee - email: quasar@b0b.com - gigs - CDs
Sierra Session 12 (E9), Williams 400X (Emaj9, D6), Sierra Olympic 12 (C6add9), Sierra Laptop 8 (D13), Fender Stringmaster (E13, A6),
Roland Handsonic, Line 6 Variax |
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Jerry Hayes
From:
Virginia Beach, Va.
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Posted 24 Mar 2003 6:37 am
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I think put those E raises and lowers on the right knee and the rest would go like this:
LKL LKR 1 2 3 RKL RKR
F#
D# D C#
G# A
E F Eb
B Bb C# C#
G# A A#
F#
E F Eb
C# D
B Bb C#
G# A
E C#
Have a good 'un.......JH
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Livin' in the Past and the Future with a 12 string Mooney Universal tuning.
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Sonny Jenkins
From:
Texas Masonic Retirement Center,,,Arlington Tx
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Posted 24 Mar 2003 8:05 am
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| Take a look at Bud Carter's copedent,,,,he plays a lot of C6 and seems to get all the E9 sounds too!!! |
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Pete Burak
From:
Portland, OR USA
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Posted 24 Mar 2003 9:44 am
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What is the current setup?
I'm guessing it is a standard 3x4 E9th.
You can play a ton of B6th "without changing a thing"!
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Joerg Hennig
From:
Bavaria, Germany
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Posted 24 Mar 2003 10:46 am
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b0b,
add another knee lever that raises only the 4th string E to F# to that setup and you´ll have a replacement for the C pedal and it opens doors to a ton of other things as well, albeit in the E9 context.
Joe H. |
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Pete Burak
From:
Portland, OR USA
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Posted 24 Mar 2003 6:32 pm
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Don McClellan lives on Maui and has a couple of U12's.
Check him out before you dismantle that Russler!
~pb
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R. E. Klaus
From:
Montana, USA
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Posted 25 Mar 2003 8:51 pm
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Thank you all for your replies. I now have a few more ideas to kick around.
R.E. |
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