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Topic: 68 Sho-Bud restoration. |
Johnny Cox
From:
Williamsom WVA, raised in Nashville TN, Lives in Hallettsville Texas
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Posted 24 Mar 2013 5:41 pm |
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My long time friend , Cecil Johnson presented me with a guitar that I had been after him to sell me during TSGA. The guitar is a 1968 Sho-Bud Permanent 9x4. With the exception of the dust collector fret boards and one broken floor pedal it is absolutely original. Cecil bought the guitar new when he played for "Little Jimmy Dickens". It's covered in nicotine bet is still playing. I'm trying to decide if I just want to clean it up or completely restore it. It had a natural maple top with coco bolo front, back and necks. I'll put up some photos soon.
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Johnny "Dumplin" Cox
"YANKIN' STRINGS & STOMPIN' PEDALS" since 1967. |
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Brian Herder
From:
Philadelphia, Pa. USA
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Posted 24 Mar 2013 6:16 pm
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| I vote clean it, unless it's peeling and flaking a lot. A played looking original is way cooler than a shiny refinish IMHO... even if it's refinished by the original guy with the original formula lacquer. Maybe some proper fretboards if they are available. |
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Johnny Cox
From:
Williamsom WVA, raised in Nashville TN, Lives in Hallettsville Texas
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Posted 24 Mar 2013 6:47 pm
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Well it's pretty nasty and has a crack on the top in front of the front keyhead. I have the proper fretboards as well. I'm going to check with some finish guys to see if it can be cleaned up.
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Johnny "Dumplin" Cox
"YANKIN' STRINGS & STOMPIN' PEDALS" since 1967. |
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John Billings
From:
Ohio, USA
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Posted 25 Mar 2013 11:01 am
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Johnny,
Got pics?
JB |
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Ron Pruter
From:
Arizona, USA
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Posted 25 Mar 2013 12:12 pm
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I vote refurb. After I reglued and screwed my aprons and center joint on my ShoBud, I was very pleased to find I had Zero cabinet drop. And with everything else I did, a beautiful steel. RP
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John Russell
From:
Austin, Texas
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Posted 26 Mar 2013 8:00 am Re: 68 Sho-Bud restoration.
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It had a natural maple top with coco bolo front, back and necks. I'll put up some photos soon.[/quote]
Do it if you have the time. Considering what new guitars cost these days. That sounds like one 'Bud that should be born again. --J |
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Johnny Cox
From:
Williamsom WVA, raised in Nashville TN, Lives in Hallettsville Texas
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Posted 27 Mar 2013 4:24 pm
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Hey guys my laptop is down and I'm unable to post the pics that I have on my phone. Maybe I can email them to someone so they can go up.
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Johnny "Dumplin" Cox
"YANKIN' STRINGS & STOMPIN' PEDALS" since 1967. |
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Nick Reed
From:
Russellville, KY USA
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Posted 29 Mar 2013 1:41 am
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| I vote for a refurb also . . . I like clean guitars better than nasty ones! |
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Jerome Hawkes
From:
Fayetteville, North Carolina, USA
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Posted 29 Mar 2013 2:22 pm
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Can't wait to see pics - my perm is one of the later ones also - I didn't know they made these as late as 69. IMO these are the best mix with the fingertip undercarriage.
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'65 Sho-Bud D-10 Permanent • '54 Fender Dual-8 • Clinesmith T-8 • '38 Ric Bakelite • '92 Emmons D-10 Legrande II |
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Lane Gray
From:
Topeka, KS
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Posted 1 Apr 2013 6:20 am
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Johnny, I can put 'em up. kcsteelplayer at either aol or gmail
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2 pedal steels, a lapStrat, and an 8-string Dobro (and 3 ukes)
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Lane Gray
From:
Topeka, KS
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Posted 4 Apr 2013 2:33 am
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Here they are, Johnny
I disagree with putting old axes' originality on a pedestal: they built this guitar with lots of pretty. It is more faithful to the original intent to put the pretty back into it
And another look
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2 pedal steels, a lapStrat, and an 8-string Dobro (and 3 ukes)
More amps than guitars, and not many effects |
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Herb Steiner
From:
Briarcliff TX 78669, pop. 2,064
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Posted 4 Apr 2013 8:00 am
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Wow, obviously it wasn't living in a "smoke-free home." 
That guitar deserves more than a clean-up, IMHO. It needs a disassembly and restoration. Unless it's just the quality of the photo, I've seen cleaner guitars that have been through a house fire.
You know how to do it, Johnny. Or let Ricky Davis get his hands on it. Save that thing. Fretboards and decals are available.
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My rig: Infinity and Telonics.
Son, we live in a world with walls, and those walls have to be guarded by men with steel guitars. Who's gonna do it? You? You, Lt. Weinberg? |
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Mike Wheeler
From:
Delaware, Ohio, USA
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Posted 4 Apr 2013 8:12 am
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I agree 100% with Herb. Ricky would breathe new life into that poor guitar.
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Johnny Cox
From:
Williamsom WVA, raised in Nashville TN, Lives in Hallettsville Texas
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Posted 4 Apr 2013 9:59 am
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This guitar was played. Cecil used it from 68 with Jimmy Dickens then he moved to Ft. Worth in the 70's ans played six nights a week at the Stagecoach. It has seen some smoke. I have been cleaning on it for days and have the top in pretty good shape. I will eventually disassemble it and bring it back to almost new. Ricky does great work but I want to do this myself. For now I just want to play it for a while.
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Johnny "Dumplin" Cox
"YANKIN' STRINGS & STOMPIN' PEDALS" since 1967.
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Herb Steiner
From:
Briarcliff TX 78669, pop. 2,064
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Posted 4 Apr 2013 10:03 am
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I love those old 3-screw pickups. A lot of the classic S~B tone came from those things.
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My rig: Infinity and Telonics.
Son, we live in a world with walls, and those walls have to be guarded by men with steel guitars. Who's gonna do it? You? You, Lt. Weinberg? |
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Jerry Jones
From:
Franklin, Tenn.
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Posted 4 Apr 2013 12:49 pm
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I vote for a refurb on the mechanism, all the metal parts, plus proper fingerboards. Other than that, a good cleaning for the wood. Took years for that guitar to earn all that mojo, be a shame to scrape it all off. 
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mike nolan
From:
Forest Hills, NY USA
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Posted 4 Apr 2013 9:02 pm
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| I'd just do the mechanics.... and play it. I love an axe with a story. |
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Bob Muller
From:
Oregon, USA
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Posted 5 Apr 2013 10:59 pm
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Johnny, I suppose you could leave the guitar the way it is, but if you clean it up and refinish it should look something like this one.
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Lane Gray
From:
Topeka, KS
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Posted 5 Apr 2013 11:24 pm
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Bob, the tone gets better when you plug it in
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2 pedal steels, a lapStrat, and an 8-string Dobro (and 3 ukes)
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Johnny Cox
From:
Williamsom WVA, raised in Nashville TN, Lives in Hallettsville Texas
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Posted 6 Apr 2013 10:32 am
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Bob, that's beautiful. I'm curious what year model it is. And what is on the little gold plate on the front.
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Johnny "Dumplin" Cox
"YANKIN' STRINGS & STOMPIN' PEDALS" since 1967. |
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Bob Muller
From:
Oregon, USA
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Posted 6 Apr 2013 10:39 pm
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| Johnny, I was told that the guitar was a 66 model when I got it. The tag of front is a custom-built tag with the original owner's name on it. The guitar is a Fingertip not a Permanent but the cabinet looks to be the same as your guitar. I do have a permanent but it has a different look to it, that's why I have shown you this guitar. |
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James Morehead
From:
Prague, Oklahoma, USA - R.I.P.
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Posted 7 Apr 2013 6:23 pm
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Hi Johnny, Way cool perm you have there!! Say, would it be possible to see some pics of the underside?
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