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Topic: How many/few players use a 7/8 bar on c6? |
Keenan Friday
From:
Magnolia, Arkansas, USA
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Posted 27 Mar 2013 10:53 pm |
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Im stuck between whether I want a 7/8 or 15/16 12 string bjs hughey bar for 10 string pedal steel. I think a 7/8 would be faster than the 15/16 but my concern is that the 7/8 would not produce as warm of a tone on the c6 neck. When i watch/listen to some steel players like emmons, jernigan, herby wallace, Im wondering what size bars they used. I have a regular 10 string bjs 15/16 bar and i like it. I have large hands and so it fits my hand better.
How many have a "special c6 bar?"
If you were me and were choosing only only 1 bar for both e9 and c6 would it be the 7/8 or 15/16?
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Edward Meisse
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Santa Rosa, California, USA
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Posted 27 Mar 2013 11:45 pm
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I have never tried the 15/16 bar. So I can't be sure. But the reason I haven't tried is that I'm totally satisfied with my 7/8 bar. I only play C6. No E9 at all.
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Hook Moore
From:
South Charleston,West Virginia
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Paul Sutherland
From:
Placerville, California
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Posted 28 Mar 2013 2:56 am
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| I use a 7/8ths bar on both necks. My hands are not big enough to effectively control the bigger bars. Plus I don't feel a need for any more sustain. |
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Eric Philippsen
From:
Central Florida USA
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Posted 28 Mar 2013 4:42 am
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I think I've checked out most of the bars and sizes, both at home and on the job.
I use the same size for both E9th and C6th work.
That being said, I think BJS bars are outstanding. As for size, I cut my teeth on a 7/8" and no matter how I try to get used to a larger one, I keep coming back to that. It's just my personal preference.
I've paid close attention to any tonal and sustain differences between sizes and for my technique and ears there hasn't been much. Oh, maybe the larger sizes give a tiny bit "more" but not that much. Again, that's to my ears and with my technique. I'm sure others have had a different experience.
I do use a Tribo-Tone bar for maybe 15% of my playing. It is really quiet and fast and it has a good warm tone. I haven't used the "other" synthetic bar that I've read about that a lot of players are using now. I'll have to try it. |
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Jerry Overstreet
From:
Louisville Ky
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Posted 28 Mar 2013 5:28 am
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| You should be able to use the same bar equally comfortably on both necks. For me, it's 7/8". |
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Richard Sinkler
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aka: Rusty Strings -- Missoula, Montana
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Posted 28 Mar 2013 7:52 am
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I agree with Jerry. I have tried both sizes and really can't tell much difference in tone (or feel for that matter). Now, I have tried 1 inch bars, and that is quite a difference, but the 1/16" difference between the 7/8" and 15/16" is so small I doubt you will see much difference. Like was mentioned, if it is comfortable to you, that is what you should use.
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Robbie Daniels
From:
Casper, Wyoming, USA
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Posted 28 Mar 2013 6:18 pm
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I have played D12 steels since the mid 60s and I have been using the 15/16 bar now for about two years and it is the best bar I have ever used. I use my 7/8 bar on my non pedal 12 stringer.
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Robbie Daniels
From:
Casper, Wyoming, USA
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Posted 28 Mar 2013 6:18 pm
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I have played D12 steels since the mid 60s and I have been using the 15/16 bar now for about two years and it is the best bar I have ever used. I use my 7/8 bar on my non pedal 12 stringer.
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Robbie Daniels
From:
Casper, Wyoming, USA
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Posted 28 Mar 2013 6:19 pm
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I have played D12 steels since the mid 60s and I have been using the 15/16 bar now for about two years and it is the best bar I have ever used. I use my 7/8 bar on my non pedal 12 stringer.
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Robbie Daniels
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Casper, Wyoming, USA
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Posted 28 Mar 2013 6:19 pm
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I have played D12 steels since the mid 60s and I have been using the 15/16 bar now for about two years and it is the best bar I have ever used. I use my 7/8 bar on my non pedal 12 stringer.
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Robbie Daniels
From:
Casper, Wyoming, USA
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Posted 28 Mar 2013 6:20 pm
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Sorry about the multiple displays. That was not on purpose, don't know what happened
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Donny Hinson
From:
Glen Burnie, Md. U.S.A.
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Posted 29 Mar 2013 12:57 pm
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I have many bars, from 1/2" all the way ip to 1 1/4", but I always go back to one of the 7/8" bars.
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| I think a 7/8 would be faster than the 15/16 but my concern is that the 7/8 would not produce as warm of a tone on the c6 neck. |
My experience is that a larger (heavier) bar may add sustain, but that it does little for "warmth". What I do notice is that the initial attack isn't as clean with a larger bar, so if I use one, it's only on slower stuff. |
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Herb Steiner
From:
Spicewood TX 78669
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Posted 31 Mar 2013 12:39 pm
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| Donny Hinson wrote: |
My experience is that a larger (heavier) bar may add sustain, but that it does little for "warmth". What I do notice is that the initial attack isn't as clean with a larger bar, so if I use one, it's only on slower stuff. |
As do I.
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