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Michael Tyne
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Posted 11 Mar 2013 2:24 pm |
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Can anyone tell me who were the musicians who played on the record "Buckeroo" by the Bakersfield Five.The steel player sounds a little like Ralph Mooney.
Its interesting to listen to the organ effect again which I first recall hearing on a Curley Chalker album big "Hits On Big Steel" years ago.
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Kevin Swan
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Medina, Ohio
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Posted 11 Mar 2013 2:50 pm
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Just guessing: Jay Dee Maness or Tom Brumley?
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Donny Hinson
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Glen Burnie, Md. U.S.A.
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Posted 11 Mar 2013 4:21 pm
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Been a lotta years since I heard that one! As I recall, it came out in the late '60's and featured (as I found out much later) Clarence White on lead guitar - playing some really uninspiring stuff, but I don't know the steeler either since there weren't any credits on the album. Could've been Moon, but definitely not Tom or JD. I remember thinking the steel playing was pretty weak too, so I passed on buying it. (This was one of those %1.99 albums that you could often find in bargain bins in drugstores back in the day.) Luckily, the store where I saw it (Fred Walker's, in Baltimore) had one of those booths where you could listen before buying, and it wasn't near as good as the Buckaroos' albums . Money was tight back then, so I didn't buy anything I that thought wassn't very good.  |
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scott murray
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Posted 11 Mar 2013 4:44 pm
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wow I've wanted to hear that album for a long time... I'm a big Clarence White fan and this one is hard to find. is there any chance of getting a digital copy of this?
Red Rhodes is a strong contender. He was on the Alshire roster but his style is fairly identifiable. I know Leo LeBlanc also did some uncredited stuff with Clarence. Mooney and Clarence played together on a Wynn Stewart album or two, so Ralph is a possibility... but I kind of doubt it.
After doing a little research, there seems to be some disagreement as to whether or not Clarence actually played on this. I'm sure Jason Odd could tell us.
I'd really have to HEAR it... y'know? 
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Mark Eaton
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Sonoma County in The Great State Of Northern California
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scott murray
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Asheville, NC
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Posted 11 Mar 2013 5:03 pm
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nice!
after listening to those samples I'm gonna say yes Red, no Clarence.
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Peter Freiberger
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California, USA
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Keith Hilton
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248 Laurel Road Ozark, Missouri 65721
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Posted 11 Mar 2013 6:15 pm
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| I know who wrote "Buckaroo", it was Bob Morris. I used to play pedal steel for Bob and Faye Morris once they moved back to Arkansas from California. Bob played guitar and also bass. He played bass with Buck for a time. |
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Chris Lucker
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Los Angeles, California USA
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Posted 11 Mar 2013 6:18 pm
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I can confirm that lady on the album cover is not Bonnie Owens.
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Donny Hinson
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Glen Burnie, Md. U.S.A.
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Posted 11 Mar 2013 7:18 pm
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| scott murray wrote: |
wow I've wanted to hear that album for a long time... I'm a big Clarence White fan and this one is hard to find. is there any chance of getting a digital copy of this?
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I like some of Clarence's stuff too, but I recall this as pretty poor playing, more akin to Luther Perkins than his later (B-Bender) stuff that I liked. (Maybe he was just out of his element?) At any rate, a little checking reveals that both vinyl and digital copies are plentiful.
Now that I think about it, the cover-gal looks a lot like Barbara Feldon (Agent 99). |
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scott murray
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Asheville, NC
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Posted 12 Mar 2013 6:17 am
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Yeah i don't think it's Clarence after hearing the samples. He just wasn't really capable of mediocre playing, and would have probably been using the bender at this point.
I do think it's Red Rhodes on steel. He recorded for the Alshire label during this time, but mostly it just sounds like him.
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Glen Derksen
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Alberta, Canada
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Posted 18 Mar 2013 12:54 am
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| Scott, I have that album and I can make you a copy on disc just for the price of shipping. PM me if you are still interested. |
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Jason Odd
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Stawell, Victoria, Australia
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Posted 1 Apr 2013 5:58 am
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Red Rhodes name has popped up, which is how I find this discussion. Red didn't actually record for Alshire in the 1960s, his Alshire LP came out a decade after this Bakersfield Five LP and is totally unrelated to how the Bakersfield Five LP came to be. Is it possible he played on the Bakersfield Five session, I guess maybe, as producer Gary Paxton did on occasion sweeten material with Hollywood pickers, but usually on someone else's buck, whereas this material was cut on spec while Gary was looking for a label to release what he was amassing in Bakersfield.
As everyone has guessed or simply known, the Bakersfield Five was a studio only affair.
It was most likely cut at Gary Paxton's studio in 1968-1969, probably without much Clarence White involvement, if any.
The steel guitar at Paxton's Bakersfield studio is generally Larry Petree or Leo LeBlanc, while potential guitarists are Hugh Brockie, Dennis Payne, Kenny Johnson, or any guitarist Paxton had in the studio cutting a demo with their rock band at the time. He switched around visitors with his regulars and relied on overdubs as he often only had two main guys in the studio most of the time.
Most of the people involved didn't hear the records at the time, in some cases, by the time Gary got a deal going, they had already moved on. Dennis Payne and Kenny Johnson who were Bakersfield boys and involved the longest, are behind most of the 'California Poppy Pickers' Alshire LPs, which ranged from cheap country-esque psyche to some rural-rocking country-rock, albeit in a sparse production sort of way.
The material Gary licensed to various labels has generally gained a certain cult status due to the supposed Clarence White connection. Keep in mind that Gary cut so many pickers on so much material (with some repetition in song choices) that it often disappoints. Gib Guilbeau's 1969 solo LP is one of my faves, but despite Gib's connection to Clarence White, most of Gib's 1969 Alshire LP was cut in Gary Paxton's Hollywood studio in 1967. This was before the move to Bakersfield, and just prior to Clarence working with either Gib or Paxton in a studio setting. The upside is that Carl Walden who was a Hollywood regular of Paxton's, is on much of Gib's Alshire set.
The peak of the Paxton - Clarence White era, would have to be the Gosdin Brothers material issued on the Bakersfield International and Capitol labels in the 1967-1968 period.
On a side note, if you want to hear Red Rhodes cut loose on some budget recordings, look for the lounge-country steel albums under his name on the Crown label from the mid 1960s and three albums on the Custom label credited separately to Dennis Hromek, Earl Ball and Johnny Meeks. Each LP was cut by Red and his band the Detours, with the singing portion of the band (Hromek, Meeks, and Ball) fronting an album of material. Good bar-band stuff.
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Joe Casey
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Posted 1 Apr 2013 6:24 am
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| I'll try to find out from Dennis.. |
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