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Dave Zirbel


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Post  Posted 6 Mar 2013 6:21 am    
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I haven't been able to find much info on Vega steels. Do they have good tone? I have my eye on a D-6. I'm finding that I need multiple tunings. Can someone share any knowledge or point me to some youtube links of a Vega being played?
Thank you.
Dave
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Andy Volk


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Post  Posted 6 Mar 2013 7:32 am    
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vega_Company

Forumite Fred Kinbom has one and it's on his new CD. Fred said:

"The Vega sounds great - it has quite a hollow resonance thing going which
might affect the electric sound in a good way. The pickup is great - I
normally prefer a warmer neck pickup sound, but this bridge pickup sounds
sweet. Very clear, but lovely with a touch of growl too - I used a touch
of just-enough-to-thicken-the-sound tube overdrive on one track."

My first lap steel was a Vega that I got as a birthday present from my wife. The case smelled like a pile of old socks so I traded it for a mandolin without ever even plugging it in. Bad decision. 25 years later I still hear about that one.
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Michael Lee Allen

 

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Post  Posted 6 Mar 2013 8:47 am    
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Mark MacKenzie

 

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Franklin, Tennessee, USA
Post  Posted 6 Mar 2013 11:08 am    
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Hey Michael, thanks for posting that. I have that Vega Commander 6 string. But I also have that amplifier. Can you post any info regarding the amp?
I need to find a schematic.
Thanks,
Mark
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Michael Lee Allen

 

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Post  Posted 6 Mar 2013 11:15 am    
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Jim Newberry


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Post  Posted 6 Mar 2013 12:46 pm     Vega Commander Schematic
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I've got a '47 Vega Commander that I did a schematic for (incomplete). Here it is, if it helps you any.




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CrowBear Schmitt


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Post  Posted 6 Mar 2013 6:32 pm    
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from the archives here








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Mark MacKenzie

 

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Post  Posted 6 Mar 2013 7:27 pm    
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You guys are great. Very helpful. But... my amp is a push pull 6L6 power section with weird loctals for inputs. Its in the exact same wood case, though.

Its also a field coil speaker. I would guess by the loctal tubes that it is a late 40's edition.

As it is now, the power section seems ok but the input tubes seem weak. Can't get a strong signal thru it. Its been recapped but I don't know what the voltages should be on these tubes.

Thanks, Jim and Michael.

Mark
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Jim Newberry


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Post  Posted 6 Mar 2013 8:33 pm    
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Yes, they ran those preamp sections with really low voltage. I've played around with increasing the voltages, but it's never gonna be a Twin Reverb...

CrowBear, looks you've got the world's biggest Vega stockpile. Nice!
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Dennis Smith

 

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Post  Posted 6 Mar 2013 9:47 pm    
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The black console is the one I would love to have. Great looking guitar.
Dennis
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Peter Huggins


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Van Nuys, California, USA
Post  Posted 7 Mar 2013 1:23 am    
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Thanks to Michael for posting the Vega catalog pages, I have an Odell lap steel. It only says Vega in the tiniest letters on the vol and tone number plates. Deke Dickerson surmised it was of Vega manufacture due to the plexiglas nut, fretboard and handrest but this is a further proof. It's a cheapie and not nearly as nice as any of those pictured upstream in this thread, but the single coil pickup screams like a real good P-90. I'll try to remember to post pictures real soon.
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Gary S. Lynch

 

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Post  Posted 7 Mar 2013 2:12 am    
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Hi Dave,
I am no expert on the pickups but I have simultaneously owned a Vega 7 string Commander,Epiphone model m 7 string, and Audiovox 7 string and compared tones.
In an E 13 or C6 I think the The AudioVox and model M had the "high end tone" tone and clarity over the Vega. So.... I would think about what type of music you are playing .. Hank/ Hawaiian,etc., I am not sure about the D6.
BTW, in my humble opinion the Audiovox is the best and I rate it up with my Ric B6 in it's unique tone.
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Fred Kinbom


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Post  Posted 7 Mar 2013 8:29 am     Re: Vega steels
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Dave Zirbel wrote:
I haven't been able to find much info on Vega steels. Do they have good tone? I have my eye on a D-6. I'm finding that I need multiple tunings. Can someone share any knowledge or point me to some youtube links of a Vega being played?
Thank you.
Dave


Hi Dave,

Like Andy mentioned above, I have a Vega (1939 Electric Console) and it sounds great! You can listen to it here (played through a Fender Super Reverb 4x10):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rzBJ5Z0RFB8

I used it on two tracks on my new album, which will be released in a few months' time. (We actually ended up using another take of the tune in the clip above, but the tone is the same).

Cheers,

Fred
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Dave Zirbel


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Post  Posted 7 Mar 2013 5:00 pm    
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Thanks guys! Very Happy
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Giandomenico Fioretto

 

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Post  Posted 21 Dec 2014 12:56 pm     Vega commander 1947
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Hi ,this is my Vega Commander ,but the Case is not the original -Is a good amp for Harp guitar and steel guitar ,made in USA 1947 -with a Goodmans cone -sound great - I dont know the wattage,but with a 6L6 final ,I think about 10/12 watt - MERRY CHRISTMAS -


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John Booth


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Post  Posted 21 Dec 2014 1:08 pm    
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CrowBear Schmitt wrote:
from the archives here



These are beautiful.
What do all the switches do?
JB
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Noah Miller


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Post  Posted 21 Dec 2014 4:03 pm    
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John Booth wrote:
These are beautiful.
What do all the switches do?
JB


That used to be my steel. Those are tone switches; they engage different resistor/capacitor combinations instead of a conventional tone pot:



These days I have another Vega console, but with a rotary 3-way tone selector:



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John Booth


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Post  Posted 21 Dec 2014 5:40 pm    
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Wow, these are very cool.
I didn't see any youtube vids on these. Do you know where I can hear one?
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Chris Templeton


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Post  Posted 21 Dec 2014 7:39 pm    
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The Vega lap steel was was my first steel (six string), which my Dad bought from a pawn shop when I was 13. It had a matching amp. The match was with the theme of the guitar case and not the guitar. The speaker grille was red. The amp also had a tan cover
I bucked wood to pay it down.
It is the same steel in CrowBear's second picture, at 4 o'clock.
My neighbor has them now.
From what Michael Lee Allen Posted, I see it is called the "Hawaiian Commander Guitar".
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Bob Russell


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Post  Posted 22 Dec 2014 6:47 am    
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I have a "Dual Grande" which does not have the six tone switches. Maybe it's an earlier version? At any rate, it has a sweet tone.



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