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Topic: E9 non pedal who use it? |
Jean-Sebastien Gauthier
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Quebec, Canada
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Posted 27 Feb 2013 11:05 am |
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I'm working on this tuning and I love it, I think its great for blues and country and Jerry Byrd used it for hawaiian.
I tune to (low to high) E.B.D.E.F#.G#.B.E
Im curious to know who use it and how, audio, some videos, lesson ect... |
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Jerome Hawkes
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Fayetteville, North Carolina, USA
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Posted 27 Feb 2013 1:34 pm
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yeah, i use it - its a great tuning, not my main one - but i dont know how to answer your question.
i think of ANY tuning as
1 - a distinctive sound color/quality*
2 - a stack of intervals
i really dont think beyond that for better or worse
*... for instance, C6 would not be my first choice at all for biker bar blues - if i was forced into that situation, a dominant sounding tuning with lots of roots & 5ths would be better - E7 / E9 - (i would stay away from a 13 tuning)
if you are asking when i would use it vs another tuning - it would just be the dominant sound being the priority - lots of old tunes that have dominant cycles...simple 3 chord stuff. i think of C6 as more of a 'sophisticated' sound - the E9, more rootsy.
that E9 is perfect for country and its not hard to see the evolution of the pedal steel right there in the tuning
the best thing to do is track down a copy of Admirable Byrd (its out of print) - there was a vintage LP blog site with the LP ripped to mp3 - cant recall where. once you hear JB play it, you'll immediately hear the difference vs 6th based tunings.
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Jerome Hawkes
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Fayetteville, North Carolina, USA
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Posted 27 Feb 2013 3:02 pm
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The only lessons I'm aware of, and they are top notch - are Jerry Byrd "pro arrangements" available from Scotty's Music - lots of E9 transcriptions. That's really all you need together with Admirable Byrd.
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Rick Aiello
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Berryville, VA USA
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Jean-Sebastien Gauthier
From:
Quebec, Canada
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Posted 27 Feb 2013 4:30 pm
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| Thanks a lot guys! I really love this sound Rick, I will dig on this tuning and look for Jerry Byrds stuff you talk about Jerome. |
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Jean-Sebastien Gauthier
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Quebec, Canada
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Posted 28 Feb 2013 7:44 am
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From watching this video of Jordan Officer I realized of much jamming a C# blues its a good way to learn the E9 tuning.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jDfLF9KBIwY
From the open strings and fret 2 you get lots of important notes in this key for blues |
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Mike Neer
From:
NJ
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Jean-Sebastien Gauthier
From:
Quebec, Canada
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Posted 28 Feb 2013 8:08 am
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| Wow great suff Mike!! I will try your tuning to get the boogie bass line! |
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Jean-Sebastien Gauthier
From:
Quebec, Canada
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Posted 28 Feb 2013 10:13 am
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| Mike your Buddy's Boogie lesson will sure help me learning this tuning! |
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Paul DiMaggio
From:
Fort Nelson, British Columbia, Canada
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Posted 28 Feb 2013 10:44 am
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| Jordan Officer plays steel too??? Who knew??? Awesome guitar player! |
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Carl McLaughlin
From:
St.Stephen,New Brunswick,Can
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Posted 1 Mar 2013 4:15 am E6th
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Anyone here using or have used Don Helms E6th?? High to low G# E C# B G# E C# A.I AM TRYING IT AND I FIND IT IS SIMILAR TO C6TH FOR STRING GROUPS?
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I have a Tele plus telecaster, Larrivee acoustic. Also have a Fender resonator guitar with new Quarterman cone and spider, and an Allan tailpiece .Playing through a Fender Super Champ XD, using a little delay on the amp and a Harmonix Holy Grail Echo pedal, set on Hall turned to about 1pm.Just Bought a Yamaha FGX5 Recently and love it. Recently got a Sho-NUFF 6 string pedal steel in open G.Still learning. |
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Tim Whitlock
From:
Colorado, USA
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Posted 1 Mar 2013 9:16 am
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| Wow - brilliant job on Wild and Woolly West Mike! I have been wanting to explore non-pedal E9, but I don't have a neck to spare. Gonna have to sacrifice something... |
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Carl McLaughlin
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St.Stephen,New Brunswick,Can
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Posted 1 Mar 2013 10:17 am E9th?
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CAN ANYONE TELL ME THE MOST COMMON TUNING FOR E9TH ON 8STRING NON PEDAL.HIGH TO LOW W/GUAGES PLEASE..THANKS..CARL 
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I have a Tele plus telecaster, Larrivee acoustic. Also have a Fender resonator guitar with new Quarterman cone and spider, and an Allan tailpiece .Playing through a Fender Super Champ XD, using a little delay on the amp and a Harmonix Holy Grail Echo pedal, set on Hall turned to about 1pm.Just Bought a Yamaha FGX5 Recently and love it. Recently got a Sho-NUFF 6 string pedal steel in open G.Still learning. |
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Jerome Hawkes
From:
Fayetteville, North Carolina, USA
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Edward Meisse
From:
Santa Rosa, California, USA
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Posted 2 Mar 2013 4:33 am Re: E6th
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| Anyone here using or have used Don Helms E6th?? High to low G# E C# B G# E C# A.I AM TRYING IT AND I FIND IT IS SIMILAR TO C6TH FOR STRING GROUPS? |
Most players use C6 with the 3rd on top these days. The intervals are identical. And that G# is generally considered a little too thin for general use. But there are guys who use it. The late, great Tom Morrell had a high G# string on his ten string E13 tuning.
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Guy Cundell
From:
More idle ramblings from South Australia
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Posted 9 Mar 2013 8:44 pm
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Here's a transcription of "Surprise Waltz" from Admirable Bird I did a few years ago. I wouldn't say it's perfect but it is probably around the mark.
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Jerry Hayes
From:
Virginia Beach, Va.
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Posted 13 Mar 2013 10:31 am
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Hey Jean, my tuning is like yours except I don't have the D string in the 6th slot. I have my low B there and a G# on string 7... This way I can retune the 1st and 5th E strings to D# (Eb) and get a nice full B6th tuning with some good low string voicings. I love that low G# and couldn't live without it..........JH in Va.
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Adrian Adkisson
From:
Oklahoma, USA
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Posted 15 Mar 2013 6:27 am
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Mike, maybe you can clarify which tuning Jerry Byrd used? Yours or Jean's?
I tune to (low to high) E.B.D.E.F#.G#.B.E |
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Adrian Adkisson
From:
Oklahoma, USA
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Posted 15 Mar 2013 7:03 am
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| ignore the post above......just saw Jerry's is described in the above sheet music. |
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L. Bogue Sandberg
From:
Chassell, Michigan, USA
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Posted 15 Mar 2013 7:24 am
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| Has anyone used E9 tuning on a resonator guitar? I'm thinking of re-stringing an 8 str. to see what it would be like. |
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Jack Aldrich
From:
Washington, USA
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Posted 16 Mar 2013 8:37 am
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I've got it on one of my 8 string lap steels. It was a favorite tuning for Barney Isaacs and jule Ah See. If I had a triple neck steel, it would be the tuning I'd add to the C13 and B11 tunings I use. It's good to use on nahe nahe old standards. The 6 string version is featured as the first tuning in Jerry Byrd's manual.
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