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Topic: The Steel Guitar Singer amp w. audio clips. New pics... |
Olli Haavisto
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Posted 12 Jan 2013 2:19 am |
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My favorite steel amp is a good Silverface Fender and I love the tone Lindley got with his Dumbles. Why not combine the two?
I found an amp builder willing to try and here is the result:
The Steel Guitar Singer:
Two completely independent channels:
A clean Fenderish pre for the PSG and a modified copy of the 70`s Dumble Overdrive Special front end for lap steel.
The Dumble version of the Fender -style power amp with two 5881 power tubes.
Maybe about 50 watts, loud enough anyway....
Tube buffered effects loop with send and return controls.
Eminence EPS-15 speaker.
Housed in a Mojotone Vibroverb cab and built into a Super Reverb chassis.
Wonderful amp! Warm, clean steel tone, very responsive overdrive with the lap steel..... So, if the stores don`t have what you need, support amp builders and have one made.
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Tom Wolverton
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Carpinteria, CA
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Posted 12 Jan 2013 6:59 am
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Interesting amp. So the lap channel is 50W and the PSG is 100W? Love it. That toggle switch on the front wouldn't last very long in my world, however.
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Olli Haavisto
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Jarvenpaa,Finland
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Posted 12 Jan 2013 7:19 am
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Two different preamps, one 50 watt power amp. I gave the toggle a week when I saw it. 
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Tim Marcus
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San Francisco, CA
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Posted 12 Jan 2013 9:36 am
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thats almost exactly the same as my new 50W Sideman amplifier!
Same cabinet even!
I was unable to fit in a SICA speaker though, so I am waiting on an offset baffle to be cut.
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Olli Haavisto
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Jarvenpaa,Finland
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Posted 12 Jan 2013 9:40 am
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Great minds think alike...
It was close with the Eminence too. The OT in a Super would be between speakers, with the single 15 it`s right in the same place.
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Tim Marcus
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San Francisco, CA
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Posted 12 Jan 2013 10:08 am
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I know - I have a tweed style bassman transformer thats jacked up to handle 6550 tubes in there too. No chance that was going to fit! I must have been smoking something when I ordered the cabinet 
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Alex Cattaneo
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Quebec, Canada
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Posted 12 Jan 2013 10:38 am
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Tim, I am very curious about that Sideman amp of yours. I have to play pedal steel and guitar on most gigs, and the Roland cube just isn't doing it for me.
How many watts on the guitar channel? I have a Vintage blackface Deluxe and even that is too loud for my needs. 12-15 watts seem plenty for a guitar amp. I read threads about guys using Fender Twins and I wonder where in the world do you play to need that kind of volume??? |
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Tim Marcus
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San Francisco, CA
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Posted 12 Jan 2013 12:33 pm
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Both channels join into a 50W output. It's loud.
The reason a Twin or high power amp is necessary in my experience is to push low end at a moderate volume. It's nice to have power even for low volume gigs. A small amp might cut it in a small room - but once you lose low end you'll wish for more. It's better to have it and not use it than to not have it and want it
That said, my 20W amp is perfect for about 75% of what I do. It's small, light and sounds great with steel and guitar. The sideman is the next step up and the steel amp is one more step up at 85W. I can build a 20W amp with a 15" speaker and it might be your jam
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Alex Cattaneo
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Quebec, Canada
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Posted 12 Jan 2013 12:48 pm
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The Sideman is not in production yet, is it? I'm going to signup for your page on Facebook and keeo an eye out for it. Your pedal steel channel, is it based on something vintage out there? Or did you start from scratch?
Olli, I totally hijacked your post. You didn't mention who made this amp for you. Does it have reverb? |
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Tim Marcus
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San Francisco, CA
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Posted 12 Jan 2013 12:53 pm
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Still in prototype phase - follow my Facebook group for status. The PSG channel is my milkman steel amp preamp. It's like a Twin tone stack but jacked for steel
I'll do an official announce here when it's done.
Sorry - I hijacked this thread too! But when great minds think alike its bound to happen as Oli suggested
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Jeff Watson
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Anza, CA. USA
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Posted 12 Jan 2013 12:57 pm
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| Just what I've been planning for some time. A little bit of a crap shoot though trying to find a builder and I just can't decide if I should use my 50w Bandmaster Reverb head (maybe with a larger OT) or my 100w Dual Showman Reverb head. Anybody know of any good builders in the Vegas area? |
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Olli Haavisto
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Jarvenpaa,Finland
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Posted 12 Jan 2013 3:05 pm
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No problem, Alex..
A guy here in Finland made it. He`s been doing Dumble type stuff and I talked him into combining the Fender and the Dumble.
I opted for no effects on board and a loop that will work with pedals or rack gear.
Reverb pedals are so good nowadays that I don`t miss the spring at all.
Also, I seem to use less and less reverb all the time...
Jeff,the Bandmaster chassis would fit the Vibroverb cabinet perfectly.
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Tim Marcus
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Olli Haavisto
From:
Jarvenpaa,Finland
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Posted 16 Jan 2013 6:08 am
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No, not Jelle Welagen.. I believe he is dutch?
This guy here in Finland doesn`t make amps for a living, I had to persuade him to do it.
BTW, a week in I`m lovin the amp even more.. two gigs and two sessions, best tone ever....
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Kirk Eipper
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Arroyo Grande, Ca.
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Posted 16 Jan 2013 11:00 am
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can we hear it?
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Olli Haavisto
From:
Jarvenpaa,Finland
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Posted 18 Jan 2013 6:33 am
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Hmmm...
Yeah, I`ll try to post something during the weekend.
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Olli Haavisto
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Jarvenpaa,Finland
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Posted 19 Jan 2013 4:32 am
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Here you are.
Noodling with a click track with my MSA Legend, one take,
16.6 k 12-stringTruetone pup:
http://www.moodhouse.fi/gold_uploads/eastwing3/NoodlinSteel.mp3
No EQ, TC Flashback delay and Hall of Fame reverb in the effects loop.
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Finland
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Stephen Cowell
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Round Rock, Texas, USA
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Tim Marcus
From:
San Francisco, CA
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Posted 19 Jan 2013 4:14 pm
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I love it!
Its got that growl that only tubes seem to deliver.
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Terry Winter
From:
Saskatchewan, Canada
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Posted 19 Jan 2013 4:46 pm
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Olli, Boy, that sounds real good!!!
Terry |
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Olli Haavisto
From:
Jarvenpaa,Finland
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Posted 20 Jan 2013 2:25 am
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More one take noodling. This time on the "Dumble side" of the amp.
Played on my custom Tyyster 25" lap steel.
Compromise setting to make all pup variations sound reasonably good....
1st chorus neck pup w. coil split
2nd chorus neck in full PAF mode
3rd chorus Lollar Chicago steel bridge pup
http://www.moodhouse.fi/gold_uploads/eastwing3/NoodlingLapSteel.mp3
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Stephen Cowell
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Round Rock, Texas, USA
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Chris Boyd
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Leonia,N.J./Charlestown,R.I.
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Helmut Gragger
From:
Austria
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Posted 27 Jan 2013 11:48 am
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Great playing and tone, man.
Truly strongly reminiscent of the King of Polyester.
Well done,
-helmut
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Olli Haavisto
From:
Jarvenpaa,Finland
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Posted 27 Jan 2013 2:39 pm
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Thanks for the comments, guys!
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