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Topic: Goodrich Volume Pedal w/ Extra Taper Pot |
Riley Hart
From: South Carolina, USA
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Posted 20 Jul 2012 6:37 am
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Hola!
Back in the '80's I used to own a Goodrich Pedal with 2 pots. One had the string, and the other was accessible via a large knob that you could roll with your foot, and the pot(which I recall was another 500k), was mounted in the 'third jack hole'.
This arrangement provided me with ability to alter the sweet spot in the taper.
Does anyone still have one of these, or knowledge to provide wiring?
Thanks, Riley. |
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David Nugent
From: Gum Spring, Va.
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Posted 21 Jul 2012 6:14 pm
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Riley...If you have a Goodrich '120' pedal, I have the pot and knob. I recently converted one of the pedals you described to a standard model by replacing the pot with a second output jack. Should be a fairly simple procedure to reverse the process. |
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Jim Palenscar
From: Oceanside, Calif, USA
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Posted 22 Jul 2012 7:26 am
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I believe that the pedal you are referring to is a Goodrich model 6122 which has a separate pot on the side that changes the taper of the volume pot as well as having an impedance matching device powered by a 9v battery. |
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Riley Hart
From: South Carolina, USA
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Posted 22 Jul 2012 7:30 am
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Thanks...David has generously offered to ship the pot and the knob to me so I can do the conversion. What i remember about the pedal I used to own, is that it had no active electronics at all, strictly passive, not that it may not have been tampered with before I got it, but worked very well without the active parts.
I still don't have a wiring diagram though, and still looking...
Thanks, Riley. |
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Jack Stoner
From: Kansas City, MO
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Posted 22 Jul 2012 8:19 am
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That could have also been the "Myrick Mod" that was done to many volume pedals in the 70's.
Here is a schematic of the Myrick Mod - An added 500K pot labeled "Tone" in the schmatic
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Riley Hart
From: South Carolina, USA
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Posted 22 Jul 2012 8:26 am
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Thanks Jack. That circuit looks like it would do what I need. Can't argue with anything "Myrick" lol... |
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Richard Sinkler
From: aka: Rusty Strings -- Missoula, Montana
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Posted 22 Jul 2012 9:49 am
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I had the Goodrich pedal that Jim spoke about with the big black wheel, and it indeed had a pc board and a 9v battery. That may have been only for the built in "match box".
I didn't like that pedal and removed the wheel and pc board shortly after I got it. Unfortunately, I threw out the parts years ago.
Does the Myrick mod just add a tone control or does it affect the taper of the volume pot. This may not be the same (don't know, but doesn't sound like it). _________________ Carter D10 8p/8k, Dekley S10 3p/4k C6 setup,Regal RD40 Dobro, Recording King Professional Dobro, NV400, NV112,Ibanez Gio guitar, Epiphone SG Special (open D slide guitar) . Playing for 55 years and still counting. |
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Jack Stoner
From: Kansas City, MO
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Posted 22 Jul 2012 12:36 pm
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That extra pot, as its labeled, is sort of tone control. |
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Don Sulesky
From: Citrus County, FL, Orig. from MA & NH
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Posted 22 Jul 2012 2:02 pm
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I have one of those 1622 Goodrich pedals I bought in the mid 70's.
I took the tone control out of the pedal and put in another output jack for my tuner.
I keep it in my SUV as a spare pedal.
Don _________________ Private one on one lessons available
Member: FSGC, PSGA, TSGA
Co-founder: Florida Steel Guitar Club
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Tom Wolverton
From: Carpinteria, CA
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Posted 22 Jul 2012 2:13 pm
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by the way, did the cost of a new Goodrich jump? Like by about 30% ? _________________ To write with a broken pencil is pointless. |
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David Nugent
From: Gum Spring, Va.
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Posted 22 Jul 2012 5:31 pm
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The pot that was removed is labeled '2 meg' rather than '500K' which leads me to believe it is a factory model rather than the 'Myrick Mod'. |
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Lee Baucum
From: McAllen, Texas (Extreme South) The Final Frontier
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Posted 23 Jul 2012 8:03 pm
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I just found one of my old Goodrich brochures. It lists their standard Model 120, along with a Model 122.
MODEL 122: "Similar to Model 120, plus a variable taper control which is easily adjusted by the foot. Has one input and one output."
The same brochure lists the Model 6122, which has the impedance matching device, requiring a 9-volt battery. Along with the Model 6122, they list a Model 6122R.
MODEL 6122R: "This pedal is like our Model 6122, except that in place of the tone control it has a taper adjustment. This makes it possible to vary the amount of pedal travel required to go from off to full volume." _________________ Lee, from South Texas - Down On The Rio Grande
There are only two options as I see it.
Either I'm right, or there is a sinister conspiracy to conceal the fact that I'm right.
Williams Keyless S-10, BMI S-10, Evans FET-500LV, Fender Steel King, 2 Roland Cube 80XL's,
Sarno FreeLoader, Goodrich Passive Volume Pedals, Vintage ACE Pack-A-Seat |
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Riley Hart
From: South Carolina, USA
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Posted 25 Jul 2012 9:31 am
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Wish to thank everyone for the input. Pedal has ben successfully serviced, thanks to Dave, Jack and all of ur help.
The schematic posted here works fine with the 2meg pot;
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Godfrey Arthur
From: 3rd Rock
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Posted 19 Dec 2012 12:45 pm
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Hi Men and Women of Steel,
I'm new to the list, new to steel actually. Have been following off and on waiting for the day. Just picked up a Sho Bud Pro 1 and eager to pay my dues. Happy to be amongst you. I have been listening to steel for years but will now try and learn it.
I have a similar Goodrich pedal I picked up used at Guitar Trader in San Diego in the late 70's. Thought I'd add to the archives with some quick photos and information.
It has the large knob, a 9vdc powered circuit in the pedal. But this knob is a TONE CONTROL not a come on volume taper setting. Without a battery, the pedal passes no sound at all. It is as I got it, have not modified anything on it. If it has been modified I would not know. There is no model number in the number field on the bottom cover. No other lettering or info marks
that I can see anyway from Goodrich. Looks like the steel pivot post would
have to be driven out to disassemble the pedal?
The battery compartment has been
routed different than some. I've seen them sideways.
Marks l, ll, lll, were placed, perhaps by the
previous owner, on the
knob to make it easier to hit
some favorite tone spots. lll is max trebel roll-off with l being no roll-off..
The volume pot
looks to be the original that came with.
The pot for the tone knob
is an AB "MOD POT."
You can see
there is a bridge for circuit connects.
Without taking the pedal apart,
you can see a cap and a resistor
although there is more of the
circuit not seen in the photo.
The tone sweep on this is crisp and clear perhaps due to the active circuit. I have no idea at this point if the tone equalization is passive or active.
I used it on a steel track once, a veteran player not I, and it worked and recorded well. _________________ ShoBud The Pro 1
YES it's my REAL NAME!
Ezekiel 33:7 |
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Lane Gray
From: Topeka, KS
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Posted 19 Dec 2012 1:22 pm
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No need to drive out the shaft, back out the set screw and it slides out _________________ 2 pedal steels, a lapStrat, and an 8-string Dobro (and 3 ukes)
More amps than guitars, and not many effects |
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Godfrey Arthur
From: 3rd Rock
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Posted 19 Dec 2012 6:35 pm
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Lane Gray wrote: |
No need to drive out the shaft, back out the set screw and it slides out |
Ok, the hunt for the set screw will commence. Eager to take a gander at that circuit board. _________________ ShoBud The Pro 1
YES it's my REAL NAME!
Ezekiel 33:7 |
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Jim Palenscar
From: Oceanside, Calif, USA
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Posted 19 Dec 2012 7:05 pm
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While it can slide out, typically the tension on the spring in the back makes it so that driving it out is a more accurate term |
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Godfrey Arthur
From: 3rd Rock
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Posted 19 Dec 2012 7:21 pm
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Jim Palenscar wrote: |
While it can slide out, typically the tension on the spring in the back makes it so that driving it out is a more accurate term |
I did see the spring back in there. Wondered how they had it assembled, like the ship in a bottle. _________________ ShoBud The Pro 1
YES it's my REAL NAME!
Ezekiel 33:7 |
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Lane Gray
From: Topeka, KS
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Posted 19 Dec 2012 7:30 pm
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omitted step 3A:
disconnecting the spring makes removal of pivot pin a snap (forgot about that sucker) _________________ 2 pedal steels, a lapStrat, and an 8-string Dobro (and 3 ukes)
More amps than guitars, and not many effects |
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Godfrey Arthur
From: 3rd Rock
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Posted 19 Dec 2012 7:52 pm
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Lane Gray wrote: |
omitted step 3A:
disconnecting the spring makes removal of pivot pin a snap (forgot about that sucker) |
Hehe, again the ship in the bottle, forceps and tweezers time. The housing on these alone is good enough for a Chip Foose inspired Roush powered skateboard. _________________ ShoBud The Pro 1
YES it's my REAL NAME!
Ezekiel 33:7 |
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Godfrey Arthur
From: 3rd Rock
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Posted 22 Dec 2012 2:51 am
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A correction may be in order. I found this photo on the forum, of a Goodrich pedal with similar knob and similar white number marks. Ergo, my presumption that the marks were placed on my used pedal by a previous owner may be wrong and looks to be something that Goodrich themselves placed at the factory.
_________________ ShoBud The Pro 1
YES it's my REAL NAME!
Ezekiel 33:7 |
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