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Topic: Is he talking about you? |
Ron Whitfield
From:
Kaaawa, Hawaii, USA
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Les Anderson
From:
The Great White North
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Posted 15 Nov 2012 3:54 pm |
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I have worked with countless musicians who have done this: from lead guitarists, to fiddle players to drummers.
I and another pedal steel guitarist had an interview rehearsal a few years back to join a new band that wanted a steel guitar in the mix. The pedal steeler did more damage for steel guitarists than any music mixer could possibly do. He was the self proclaimed star of the band and played over everyone in the band. He did not get the nod to join the band needless to say. I did however; with a Remington D10 no-pedal |
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Barry Blackwood
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Posted 15 Nov 2012 4:03 pm
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GUITAR PLAYER COMPLAINS ABOUT STEEL PLAYER OVERPLAYING.
Am I the only one that doesn't see the massive irony in this?   |
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Donny Hinson
From:
Glen Burnie, Md. U.S.A.
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Posted 15 Nov 2012 4:22 pm
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Overplaying can take many forms, it can be non-stop playing, playing too many notes and chords, but also always playing too loud. Sometimes, the player is just showing off, sometimes he's just trying to "carry" another player who ain't cuttin' it, and sometimes it's just someone who's so engrossed in what he's doing that he don't hear anything else.
Often, a player may have to walk a very narrow path to satisfy himself, and the others in the band. Overplay, and people may get the idea you're a showoff, conceited and ignorant. Underplay, and people may get the idea you're not very confortable with what you're doing, or you're just not capable of carrying your load. And, since whichever the case may be, you're not playing enough to justify your pay, you could get the boot just as fast as "Mr. Hogitall".
I'd advise bandmembers to talk, get together and have a bull-session once a month. Compromises can sometimes be reached among sensible folks. If the bandmembers aren;t sensible, then it time for some sort of a change.  |
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Dave Hopping
From:
Aurora, Colorado
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Posted 16 Nov 2012 6:45 pm
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| I read that thread too,and silently renewed my New Years' Resolution to not be that guy.I worked awhile back with a reputable local steeler who WAS that guy.It's amazing how fast even the most brilliant wanking gets old. |
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Bo Legg
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Posted 17 Nov 2012 4:21 am
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Well I've seen a lot of really good Ma and pa country bands harmonizing good old classic country with simple rhythm guitar and a fiddle with a simple country country lead.
Then you look over at the PSG with his Steel guitar seat his FX rack two $1,500 amps a $300 volume pedal and $100 instrument cables and a brand new shinny $5,000+ D-12.
Just the look of him before he even plays a note screams "I'm going to over play".
And then he looks shocked when you imply that he's a showoff! |
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Dave Hopping
From:
Aurora, Colorado
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Posted 17 Nov 2012 11:31 am
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Bo,not exactly on topic,but very,very close.What does it say when one player has more money onstage than everyone else in the band combined? I have been that guy:on onegig I had my RP U-12,Nashville 112,FX rack,Steelseat,et cetera.Plus my '84 AVRI Strat,'99 Nashville B-bender,'63 Country Gent,'59 RI Bassman LTD,pedalboard,mic,and personal vocal monitor.At that point I began to think that throwing every piece of gear you have onstage is a good deal like throwing every lick you know at your hapless bandmates.
I've since changed my ways and now I just about burst with pride at how well I've learned the lesson of humility. 
Last edited by Dave Hopping on 17 Nov 2012 7:53 pm; edited 1 time in total |
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John Billings
From:
Ohio, USA
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Posted 17 Nov 2012 4:01 pm
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| Fiddle players, and keyboard players can drive me nutz! Played with a fiddle player who is really, really good, but noodles non-stop, screwin' up my fills and solos. He didn't last. Keyboard players know nothing about "Blue" notes, cus they don't have 'em on a keyboard. And if they don't play the right rhythm chords behind a steel or guitar solo, it sounds awful! |
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