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Steve Mueller
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Cincinnati, Ohio, USA
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Posted 9 Oct 2012 2:04 pm |
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What do people recommend as the lowest noise cables? I'm going to but some new ones and might as well get the best. I looked at Bobbe Seymour's website and he carries CBI cables.
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Roger Crawford
From:
Griffin, GA USA
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Posted 9 Oct 2012 3:23 pm
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| George L's are the "industry standard" for steel guitar. Don't waste your time and money on anything else. |
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David Nugent
From:
Gum Spring, Va.
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Posted 9 Oct 2012 3:36 pm
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| American Musical Supply carries CBI cables as well, but another vote here for George L. |
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Larry Hamilton
From:
Amarillo,Tx
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Posted 9 Oct 2012 3:40 pm
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Steve, several years when I replaced all my cables, I went total Georgle L's. I without a doubt heard a cleaness that wan't there before. No eq changes needed but was noticable. Pluss if I trip over a cord and tear it apart I can put it right back together. The only thing I would do different is but the premade cords if you know the length you want. Sometimes it takes meseveral tries to get them grounded properly but even then it is worth it. Over the years I have made them all lengths for all purposes except for speaker cords and that is a different animal. Give them a try I truly think you will like them. 
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Bob Hoffnar
From:
Austin, Tx
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Posted 9 Oct 2012 4:39 pm
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I have had problems with the George L angled plugs. The straight ones work fine for me though.
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Steven Finley
From:
California, USA
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Posted 9 Oct 2012 5:12 pm
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| Roger knows what he is talking about. |
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Ivan Posa
From:
Hamilton, New Zealand
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Posted 9 Oct 2012 6:22 pm
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| Bill Lawrence also had very high quality low capacitance cable. |
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Roger Crawford
From:
Griffin, GA USA
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Posted 9 Oct 2012 7:01 pm
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| There is a new style angle plug available. It connects exactly like the straight plug. |
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Greg Cutshaw
From:
Corry, PA, USA
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Posted 10 Oct 2012 4:01 am
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Agree the old style right angle plugs are compact but not very reliable. The new style pictured below is awesome!
Greg |
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Tommy Boswell
From:
Virginia, USA
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Posted 10 Oct 2012 4:42 am
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| George L's made a very noticeable improvement in my tone. I never imagined that cables were that important, but they are definitely worth the investment. |
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Daniel Policarpo
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Posted 10 Oct 2012 7:59 am
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| I remember 24 years ago a guy in St. Louis recommended me this skinny lightweight cable that I had to scew the ends together. George L. cable is the one extravagance that has become a necessity. |
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Tom Wolverton
From:
Carpinteria, CA
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Posted 10 Oct 2012 11:08 am 4 me, George-L for long cords, Lava for pedalboard cables
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Henry Matthews
From:
Texarkana, Ark USA
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Posted 10 Oct 2012 12:32 pm
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I use nothing but GeorgeL cables but do think are way over priced but still lots of advantages. In the field repair, better tone, they take up less space in pac-a-seat and they last forever. I think in the long run, well worth the investment.
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Henry Matthews
D-10 Magnum, 8 &5, dark rose color
D-10 1974 Emmons cut tail, fat back,rosewood, 8&5
Nashville 112 amp, Fishman Loudbox Performer amp, Hilton pedal, Goodrich pedal,BJS bar, Kyser picks, Live steel Strings. No effects, doodads or stomp boxes. |
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Erv Niehaus
From:
Litchfield, MN, USA
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Posted 10 Oct 2012 12:38 pm
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I've had good luck with these:
A lot cheaper than George L's and no problem with the angled ones.
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Steve Mueller
From:
Cincinnati, Ohio, USA
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Posted 10 Oct 2012 1:57 pm
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I checked and it seems George L does't make shorter lengths, you buy a kit and cut to length for connecting steel to volume pedal, etc.
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Mike Kowalik
From:
San Antonio,Texas
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Posted 10 Oct 2012 2:02 pm
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| I switched from George L to Canare cables with Neutrik connectors and am happy with the new cables. |
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Roger Crawford
From:
Griffin, GA USA
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Posted 10 Oct 2012 2:26 pm
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| Standard seems to be 3' for guitar to VP and 10' for VP to amp, but a dealer can make them any length you need. |
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LARRY COLE
From:
LANCASTER, OHIO, USA
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Posted 10 Oct 2012 3:25 pm
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| Canare cable and Switchcraft 280 ends. The best. I have never had a Switchcraft plug tarnish. Every other brand I have tried will tarnish over time. With these you don't have to worry about field repair, they don't break. In twenty years I have had one cable go bad because I kept jerking it out by the cable(being lazy). |
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Mike Wheeler
From:
Delaware, Ohio, USA
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Posted 11 Oct 2012 1:10 pm
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| Steve Mueller wrote: |
| I checked and it seems George L does't make shorter lengths, you buy a kit and cut to length for connecting steel to volume pedal, etc. |
I simply bought 50' of cable, and 8 connectors (4 straight, 4 right angle), and made my own custom lengths. You can buy the kit, but it's not necessary.
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Jack Stoner
From:
Kansas City, MO
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Posted 11 Oct 2012 3:47 pm
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Last I checked, Bobbe Seymour's shop will sell you any length of cable and connectors.
Who sells the new style right angle connectors for .155 cable? I can find them for the .225 but not .155. |
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David Mason
From:
Cambridge, MD, USA
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Posted 11 Oct 2012 7:19 pm
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| Cables act as a capacitor which changes your tone. A lot of Strat players specifically use a higher-capacitance cable to drop their initial signal's tonal center, especially live where there's often not a lot of time to "EQ the room." The old Sho-bud sound was designed to optimize around a couple of higher-capacitance cables through a pot pedal and a Fender Twin (or Shobud or some other tube amp). To my ear, plugging one of them babies into a pair of hi-fi low-capacitance GeorgeL cables into a Hilton pedal and a Peavey SS amp is the epitome of icepickery. |
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Greg Cutshaw
From:
Corry, PA, USA
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Posted 12 Oct 2012 3:56 am
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David, I have a 10' and a 20' George L's cable and use the 20' to my amp when I want a more retro tone. The George L's connectors are only 4pF apiece and the thin cable is 8pF per foot. It's nice to have low capacitance to start with and easy to add more later!
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Charlie Powell
From:
Kingsport, Tennessee, USA
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Posted 12 Oct 2012 10:39 am
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I have never seen published specs for Geo L cable, but have seen several test reports. More like 23-24 pf per foot. Is there a link to a spec sheet?
Oh, BTW, great cable, I just don't know that I believe 8 pf per foot.
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Mitch Adelman
From:
Pennsylvania, USA
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Posted 12 Oct 2012 11:13 am
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| As good as they sound, they have failed many times over many years on my board on stage, both right angle and straight plugs and bought pre-made. Maybe it was my technique but I lost faith in their (mine)reliably and went with good soldered cables without failures and any lost highs can be gotten back with active pedal. |
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Greg Cutshaw
From:
Corry, PA, USA
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Posted 12 Oct 2012 11:53 am
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The capacitance numbers were measured on my capacitance bridge. Even Radio Shack has a thin shielded cable that measures 10pf per foot but it's not very durable.
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