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Topic: Converting from C6 to E9th ??? |
Eldon Cangas
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Ontario, Canada
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Posted 16 Sep 2012 3:13 am |
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I'm considering converting my C6 single neck to E9th. It has 8 strings and 6 pedals w no knees. Other than the learning curve to play it I'm wondering about the wisdom of doing it. I play mostly country and I built the guitar so I'm not afraid of mechanics of converting.
It seems that most folks go from E9 to C6 and I'd appretiate any pros & cons you folks can come up with.
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Dave Grafe
From:
Hudson River Valley NY
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Posted 16 Sep 2012 8:27 pm
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It seems that most folks go from E9 to C6 and I'd appretiate any pros & cons you folks can come up with.
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I can't say that I can agree with that statement, Eldon. Many folks learn the C6th after becoming proficient on the E9 but many of the older folks did it the other way around; the vast majority of those who play both continue to play both, as they produce different sounds and require a different way of thinking.
The guitar you describe sounds like it would be best left as is, there are a number of nice S10 E9 guitars for sale herer on the forum, and you wouldn't have to mess up that vintage guitar you have, you might even get better money for it than you need to buy what you are looking for! |
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b0b
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Cloverdale, CA, USA
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Posted 16 Sep 2012 10:34 pm
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E9th really does require knee levers, more than C6th. There are people who like S-8 C6th guitars. I think you'd be better off looking for a trade than trying to convert 6+0 to 3+3.
What exactly is the S-8?
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Eldon Cangas
From:
Ontario, Canada
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Posted 16 Sep 2012 11:21 pm
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b0b, the S-8 is just an 8 string guitar, like the the S10 with 2 less things or is my inexperienced nomenclature showing.
Thanks so far guys.
Eldon |
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Bill Ladd
From:
Wilmington, NC, USA
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Posted 17 Sep 2012 2:52 am
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Eldon - b0b plays a Desert Rose S8 guitar.
I believe he's asking who made your guitar? I'd be interested to know as well. |
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Lane Gray
From:
Topeka, KS
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Posted 17 Sep 2012 6:50 am
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Guys, unless I missed something, he says he built the guitar.
Unless you wish to convert some of those pedals to knee levers, the guitar is not a suitable candidate for the E9th tuning, as it is not uncommon to hit 4 changes at once, or 3 changes in rapid succession.
That guitar is really more practical left with its current tuning
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b0b
From:
Cloverdale, CA, USA
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Posted 17 Sep 2012 7:34 am
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Sorry, I missed that part where you said that you built the guitar.
In that case, why not build another for E9th, with knee levers? 
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Bill Ladd
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Wilmington, NC, USA
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Posted 17 Sep 2012 7:38 am
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I now remember I had read Eldon built it when he first posted and then I forgot!!
Heck, I'm only fifty. Does it get worse?  |
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Richard Sinkler
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aka: Rusty Strings -- Missoula, Montana
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Posted 17 Sep 2012 7:44 am
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I now remember I had read Eldon built it when he first posted and then I forgot!!
Heck, I'm only fifty. Does it get worse? |
Well Bill, I am 58 and I noticed where he said he built it and I remembered that while reading all these posts. So, I have to say it will get better. 
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David Mason
From:
Cambridge, MD, USA
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Posted 17 Sep 2012 11:14 am
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Bobby Bowman
From:
Cypress, Texas, USA, R.I.P.
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Posted 17 Sep 2012 2:57 pm Better Off?
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I too, think you'd be better off leaving this guitar as is.
Also, even though you could have an 8 string E-9, you would do much better with a 10 string E-9 with 4 or 5 knee levers and 3 or 4 floor pedals. In my opinion.
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Donny Hinson
From:
Glen Burnie, Md. U.S.A.
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Posted 17 Sep 2012 4:08 pm
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If you're proficient at two-footing it, the 6 pedals would do okay for an E or D based tuning. Of course, if you built it, then you'd probably have no problem converting two of the pedals to levers. An awful lot of country stuff can be played with 4+2. 
No, a 4+2 won't let you play everything you hear Paul or Tommy doing on E9th, but then again, most of us couldn't do what they do...even if we had all their pedals and levers!  |
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Tommy White
From:
Nashville
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Posted 17 Sep 2012 5:03 pm
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Edited for too much information!
Last edited by Tommy White on 18 Sep 2012 5:04 am; edited 1 time in total |
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Richard Sinkler
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aka: Rusty Strings -- Missoula, Montana
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Posted 17 Sep 2012 5:40 pm
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You have a lot of good advice here from some really good players. I would pay attention to them.
And, I also agree to not try it unless you make 2 or 3 knee levers out of the pedals. Or, since you obviously have builder's talent, just make the levers and add them.
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Fred Glave
From:
McHenry, Illinois, USA
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Posted 18 Sep 2012 8:36 am
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If you built/added on some knee levers you could end up with a pretty snazzy copedent regardless of the tuning.
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b0b
From:
Cloverdale, CA, USA
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Posted 18 Sep 2012 8:52 am
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| If you built/added on some knee levers you could end up with a pretty snazzy copedent regardless of the tuning. |
This is what I'm using on my 8 string. Tuning it to D6th instead of C6th brings it closer to the E9th timbre. The first two pedals and the knee levers (except LKR) are E9th changes. It works pretty well - I use it for almost all of my gigs now. Most people don't care about C6th or E9th. They just like the pedal steel sound.
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