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Topic: Mounting Mics on Amps |
Matthew Walton
From: Fort Worth, Texas
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Posted 16 Aug 2012 6:10 pm
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I have been using a Heil PR31BW to mic my amp (Fender Twin Reverb Reissue, sometimes a Peavey 112), using the SB-2 clamped on the side. The reason I clamp it on the side is that it is pretty much the only place that it can be mounted. As you may or may not be able to figure out, this doesn't work out all that great: it inevitably falls down, as the stand isn't designed to handle a load in that direction. Gravity: it works.
What I am considering is screwing a mount directly to the amp. On this page, I'm looking at the FL-2. What are your thoughts on this? Would there be adverse effects from the vibrations traveling through the amp? _________________ If something I wrote can be interpreted two ways, and one of the ways makes you sad or angry, I meant the other one.
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Richard Sinkler
From: aka: Rusty Strings -- Missoula, Montana
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Posted 16 Aug 2012 6:32 pm
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I remember playing with a guy a few times that had one of those screwed to the top of his amp. He used a goose neck to bend the mic down in front of the speaker. I don't remember him having any problems, but that was a long time ago and memory is not what it used to be.
I personally would just carry one of those short desktop mic stands (if my amp was on the floor)or one of the short floor stands with a small boom (if my amp was on a chair or an amp stand). _________________ Carter D10 8p/8k, Dekley S10 3p/4k C6 setup,Regal RD40 Dobro, Recording King Professional Dobro, NV400, NV112,Ibanez Gio guitar, Epiphone SG Special (open D slide guitar) . Playing for 54 years and still counting. |
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Michael Haselman
From: St. Paul
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Posted 16 Aug 2012 6:43 pm
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I played a gig last week and the sound company used a cool spring-loaded clamp with a mic clip on it. Found out it was a Cabgrabber made by Audix. A little pricey at $50. Z-Bars are nice also and about $20. _________________ Mullen RP D10, Peavey NV112, Hilton volume. Hound Dog reso. Piles of other stuff. |
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Steve Humes
From: Tampa, Florida, USA
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Ken Metcalf
From: San Antonio Texas USA
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Posted 17 Aug 2012 5:42 am
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I just hang it from a loop around the handle.
Sennheiser e609 is flat and relatively inexpensive.
Other that that I would just use a regular boom stand.
I like those folding jobs like this....
Multi use works for other stuff to like vocals.
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Ron Randall
From: Dallas, Texas, USA
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Posted 17 Aug 2012 2:53 pm
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Shure SM57 is hard to beat.
I like the solid rectangular steel base, with a short vertical mast. Point the mic at a point halfway between the edge of the dust cover and the surround. About a quarter inch from the grill cloth.
This works great until it gets kicked or bumped!
I have been using the Sennheiser, as described above, hanging from a loop in the cord directly on the grill cloth. very good for live music.
If using an open back cabinet, pay attention to what may be behind it. The noise will pass thru and be picked up by the mic.
Studio work, I like the Sennheiser 421 on a solid base.
Hope this helps |
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Dave Simonis
From: Stevens Point, WI USA
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Posted 17 Aug 2012 7:32 pm
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I do the same as Ken/Ron...Sennheiser mic hung in front, loop the mic cord once around the handle and hang mic in front of amp...less to carry in. It works great if you don't tilt your amp. _________________ Dave Simonis
Fiddle: Zeta, Arthur Conner, many others.../Steel: GFI SD-10 Ultra.../Mandolin: Breedlove.../Guitar: Gibson, Fender, Taylor.../Amps: Peavey NV112, Evans FET 500.../Others: Hilton, Goodrich, Stereo Steel, Pendulum Pre-amp... |
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Bill Bassett
From: Papamoa New Zealand
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Posted 19 Aug 2012 12:38 pm Off Axis
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The big problem I have with hanging a mic over the top and letting it bounce around on the grill cloth in front of the speaker is: Any cardioid pattern mic such as a SM 57 or a Senn. 421 is that the source is 90 degrees off axis. Does that matter? I don't know, you tell me.
Just use a stand, if it's worth micing, it's worth micing right. |
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Lane Gray
From: Topeka, KS
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Posted 19 Aug 2012 1:55 pm
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Of course it matters with cardioid and hypercardioid mics.
But a 58 or that Sennheiser built to do that don't count.
The 58 is omni, and if that Sennheiser is cardioid, it's built to point perpendicular like that.
If I had a 57, I would put it on a stand in front of the amp _________________ 2 pedal steels, a lapStrat, and an 8-string Dobro (and 3 ukes)
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Dave Grafe
From: Hudson River Valley NY
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Posted 19 Aug 2012 3:56 pm
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The Senn 409 and 609 models are perfectly on axis when hanging from the handle of the amp, and precision placement is a cinch. |
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Bo Borland
From: South Jersey -
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Posted 19 Aug 2012 6:30 pm
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I like the Sennheiser 609\.. light weight great sound etc..just hang it like Dave said..
In the case of a Sure 57 or 58, I have a goosneck that I slide under the amp handle and put the mike on it .. last week the sound guy had a Z like shaped piece of metal with a mike clip attached that also slipped under the handle |
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Brad Sarno
From: St. Louis, MO USA
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Posted 19 Aug 2012 6:54 pm
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Dave Grafe wrote: |
The Senn 409 and 609 models are perfectly on axis when hanging from the handle of the amp, and precision placement is a cinch. |
Exactly. My mic of choice. No stand needed, great guitar amp mic's.
Sennheiser 409, 906, or 609 (in order of preference).
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Marc Jenkins
From: Victoria, British Columbia, Canada
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Posted 19 Aug 2012 8:31 pm
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Lane Gray wrote: |
The 58 is omni, and if that Sennheiser is cardioid, it's built to point perpendicular like that. |
SM58 is cardioid, for the record. |
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Dave Grafe
From: Hudson River Valley NY
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Posted 20 Aug 2012 9:41 am
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...and the Sennheiser MD421 is a cardioid dynamic mic that is NOT a side-address mic at all but will perform best when pointed directly at the source, just like a Shure SM57 or SM58.
I sometimes carry a Senn 409 and of those little 3" folding tripod stands that they sell for cameras, but lately I tend to leave my mics at home,just tune my guitar and let the sound guys do whatever they want to do anyway.... |
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Matthew Walton
From: Fort Worth, Texas
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Posted 22 Aug 2012 3:01 pm
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I was looking at the Sennheiser e609 for a while, but I I decided to go with the Heil PR-31 BW after I became convinced of the quality of the noise cancellation. It is also working phenomenally as a home studio mic; I can record and leave the fan/AC on.
Here is a link to the mic I have if anyone is curious: http://www.heilsound.com/pro/products/pr31bw/ _________________ If something I wrote can be interpreted two ways, and one of the ways makes you sad or angry, I meant the other one.
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Jim Pitman
From: Waterbury Ctr. VT 05677 USA
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Posted 30 Aug 2012 5:11 am
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I slip a conventional foot long goose neck with SM57 mounted under the handle of my Blues Deluxe. I shape/postition it off center of the speaker. |
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Micky Byrne
From: United Kingdom (deceased)
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Posted 30 Aug 2012 9:15 am Re: Mounting Mics on Amps
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I always have a small stand with my Shure SM-57 slightly to the side of the speaker cone on an angle.
The 57 seems to be used by many sound crews over here. Some female vocalist seem to like them too because of the slight presence boost. For my own vocals I use a Sennheiser.
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Andy Zahnd
From: Switzerland
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Jerry Tillman
From: Florida
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Posted 17 Oct 2012 5:13 am mic
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I have started using a T BONE direct box and running straight to the board.I,m getting a better sound with no feedback and the sound man gets a nice strong signal.I would prefer to use a nice amp but it brings in to many problems.The TBONE is for acoustic guitars but works for electric also.Its also like having a spare amp as you can go right to the board and then get a monitor send just to the monitor in front of you. |
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