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Jason Rumley


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Foley, Minnesota, USA
Post  Posted 13 Aug 2012 2:54 pm    
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I was going through some reading and refreshing my knowledge on modes. While I realize it's doubtful I'll ever use them on steel guitar, I play other instruments too.

My questions boils down to this: You create modes by simply starting a different place in the major scale. For instance if you're in C Major, playing from the 2nd degree of the scale(D) would give you a D Dorian scale. Which by itself is very minor sounding. But what happens when you start from the second degree of a C Minor scale? Is that scale now a D Dorian Minor scale/mode?
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chas smith R.I.P.


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Post  Posted 13 Aug 2012 3:10 pm    
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D Dorian is related to C Ionian, because neither of them have accidentals (sharps and flats). If the C minor scale has 2 flats, it's a C Dorian, related to Bb Ionian.

All this stuff can drive you crazy. For me, D Dorian is playing the C major scale, but D is my root, A is my 5th and F is my 3rd.
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Lane Gray


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Post  Posted 13 Aug 2012 3:22 pm    
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Your standard Cmin would have 3 flats, and be based on the Eb Ionian, C Aeolian mode. Starting 3 flats starting on D would be Locrian, with I being a diminished.
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Jason Rumley


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Post  Posted 13 Aug 2012 3:34 pm    
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So if you start on D in a C natural minor scale, the spaces being H, H, W, H, H, W, W (D, Eb, F, G, Ab, Bb, C, D) That makes that scale a what? I guess I'm confused or maybe I worded the question weird.
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Lane Gray


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Post  Posted 13 Aug 2012 3:38 pm    
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D Locrian. Think of it as Eb, starting on VII.
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Jason Rumley


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Post  Posted 13 Aug 2012 3:43 pm    
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Oh alright. Thinking about it like that makes a lot more sense. Thanks Lane!
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