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Billy McCombs


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Post  Posted 1 Aug 2012 9:32 pm    
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Any one have some audio examples of this lower? Thanks
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Bobby Boggs

 

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Post  Posted 1 Aug 2012 9:57 pm    
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This is close to 50 years old. Listen to the lead in to the intro and turn around.Strings 2 and 5. Just one of a million ways to use this change.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WPCgQngjdn0
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Greg Wisecup


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Post  Posted 2 Aug 2012 4:49 am    
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Here's a week attempt from a couple years ago of Bobby's suggestion. Very week. Bobby should be giving this lesson.
http://picosong.com/PSm/
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Jim Lindsey (Louisiana)


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Post  Posted 2 Aug 2012 5:21 am    
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Here's one I like to use where you're raising the 6th string (B Pedal) and using the whole tone lower on the 2nd string:



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David Alley

 

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Post  Posted 2 Aug 2012 6:22 am     second string
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great lick sounds full when you go back to the eight fret try pedal BC together and strings 456 hit 456 and let off of pedals BC
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b0b


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Cloverdale, CA, USA
Post  Posted 2 Aug 2012 7:43 am    
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I have that change on my "pedal 0", to the left of the A pedal. I've been told that's where Buddy had it when he played "Touch My Heart", but I don't play that song. I mostly use it as a scale note when I have my 4th string lowered.
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Pete Burak

 

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Portland, OR USA
Post  Posted 2 Aug 2012 8:03 am    
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I used to use it on the intro lick to "Till I Gain Control Again" to go from G to C.
Tab:

1F#|-------------------------------------------------
2D#|------------------3C#--3D--3---------------------
3G#|-------------------------------------------------
4E-|-------------------------------3-----------------
5B-|---------------3---------------------------------
6G#|--------3--3B------------------------------------
7F#|-----3-------------------------------------------
8E-|--3----------------------------------------------
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Clete Ritta


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San Antonio, Texas
Post  Posted 2 Aug 2012 10:24 pm    
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I often use the 2nd string whole tone lower with string 5 and A pedal in much the same manner as the 1st string whole tone raise with string 3 for unison bends.

Clete
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Chris Reesor

 

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British Columbia, Canada
Post  Posted 3 Aug 2012 12:23 am     2nd string whole tone lower.....
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..... which often comes along with the 9th string lower to C#, combined with the E lowers makes the whole tuning a G# minor/ B major pentatonic scale.
Rock and blues licks galore here.
That unison bend that Clete mentions has some rock/blues applications too. Try it along with the first string with the E's not lowered, two frets above the minor pentatonic position. In other words, key of A at the first fret, with E's lowered, third fret with E's not lowered. The C pedal gives another unison bend with the first string at this position that will have you playing familiar old rock licks in no time flat.
Lots to explore here.

Chris
edit: I see I'm a little off topic, but, what the hey, someone might find this useful Wink
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Michael Hummel


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Ottawa, Ontario, Canada
Post  Posted 3 Aug 2012 6:53 am    
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Damn! Being a rock/blues kinda guy, I went to try Chris's tip, and realized that the way my Sho-Bud is set up (standard Emmons), the E lower is RKL and the 9th string lower is RKR !!!

Everybody knows about bar slants -- I'd have to do a complete leg slant to accomplish that!

Rolling Eyes Mike
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Lane Gray


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Post  Posted 4 Aug 2012 8:24 am    
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Michael, if you can hit the strings and move on the sustain, your picking hand can move an RK*
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Mike Cass

 

Post  Posted 9 Aug 2012 12:42 am    
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listen to: Ray Price, "An Eye for an Eye".
The end of the intro features a similar idea to "Touch My Heart" but different in that the move from unisons to harmony is split up in increments, but not like you'd think it would be done as the move utilizes backing up the bar 1 fret as you release the 2nd string lower, then back to the original fret as you release the A pedal. Ive found for me thats its the best way to get the feel of the phrasing that Buddy used rather than doing it all at 1 fret, plus you dont have to feel the 1/2 to do it.
Lane Gray


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Post  Posted 9 Aug 2012 8:51 am    
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For the intro Mike speaks of, go to
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eFj680v3xM8&feature=youtube_gdata_player
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Larry Bressington

 

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Post  Posted 9 Aug 2012 10:41 am    
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Adding the 'franklin' raise on the 2nd string really brings this out, because you can resolve without ending on string 4, plus you can wiggle the lever quickly with your knee and get some interesting bends and not having to re-pick another string group, not that you shouldn't but it ads to the 'Glissando' effect.
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