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Tony Williamson

 

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Post  Posted 20 Jul 2012 6:52 pm    
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bob, i know,,,but if you will leave these on just long enough for everyone to take a peek at my new old gibson. gotta get frank neat to make a neck...



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Lane Gray


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Post  Posted 20 Jul 2012 7:26 pm    
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purty.
The binding makes it look like film
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Tony Williamson

 

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Post  Posted 20 Jul 2012 7:34 pm    
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lol. never thought of that. remember when checkerboard pattern was popular? hmmm wonder if that would look cool on the right color steel? real mop buttons!
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Tony Williamson

 

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Post  Posted 20 Jul 2012 7:44 pm    
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these were two grades higher than a granada. ive looked for 25 years , this is the 3rd old one ive seen. Bob, i'll take the post off tomorrow. thanks.
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George Seymour


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Post  Posted 21 Jul 2012 1:40 am    
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Tony Williamson wrote:
these were two grades higher than a granada. ive looked for 25 years , this is the 3rd old one ive seen. Bob, i'll take the post off tomorrow. thanks.




Two style two's, a one and a 11! You think steel's are expensive, nice banjo Tony, Ronnie Bales did my necks Smile
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Dave Mudgett


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Post  Posted 21 Jul 2012 6:52 am    
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Very cool banjo. Seriously, there's no reason not to post this on the SGF, but it should go over in the "Music" section.
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Tony Williamson

 

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Post  Posted 21 Jul 2012 6:55 am    
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i thought this was the appropriate section since prewar banjos are fatal to steel guitars...
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Post  Posted 21 Jul 2012 7:56 am    
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Beautiful!
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gotta get frank neat to make a neck...

May I ask why?
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Lane Gray


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Post  Posted 21 Jul 2012 9:17 am    
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Because it's a TB (tenor banjo: 4 strings), and Tony plays a 5.
My guess. I'm surprised this hasn't been moved to Music

PS: 1926? Can't you afford a new one? Laughing
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Post  Posted 21 Jul 2012 11:11 am    
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OK I see, a friend of mine, who makes banjos does this job too, from time to time.
http://www.gassmann-banjos.com/index.html
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Post  Posted 21 Jul 2012 11:45 am    
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The first thing I thought when I saw the text at the bottom of the page was "Let's go to Laudenbach, Deutschland, Willie und Waylon und den boys..."



Yeah, I've warned y'all I'm a goofball
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Post  Posted 21 Jul 2012 12:39 pm    
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Bob, can you move this to music in case anyone else wants to look....thanks. yeah im a five string player and everyone says frank neat can match the patina real good. i coulda bought a franklin..i couldnt let it get away. i worry about spending that kind of money with the media talking about a depression coming. maybe having the after buying blues.
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Post  Posted 21 Jul 2012 12:41 pm    
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Lane, you spend too many hours on the road.... Laughing
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Post  Posted 21 Jul 2012 12:50 pm    
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As you may know Bach means greek, my area is full of small villages with this ending: Hemsbach, Sulzbach, Auerbach. When I first got the "Viva Luckenbach" record by Jerry Jeff Walker, it made me think what's the matter here?
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Lane Gray


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Post  Posted 21 Jul 2012 3:54 pm    
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Creek.
See Bach, P.D.Q.
"Gehe ich am Crüppel Bach hinaus"
on Black Forest Bluegrass
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Post  Posted 21 Jul 2012 4:01 pm    
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Tony Williamson wrote:
i thought this was the appropriate section since prewar banjos are fatal to steel guitars...


Absoultely not! Playing both enhances each other, Bill Keith, Winnie Winston to name a couple.
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Eugene Cole


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Post  Posted 21 Jul 2012 6:57 pm    
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Lane; you are correct. I got Joachim and Tony confused in my reply.

I edited it: but the sentiment stands. A happy new owner and explanation of why the neck would be replaced.

-E


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Lane Gray


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Post  Posted 21 Jul 2012 7:05 pm    
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Eugene Cole wrote:


Banjo players do not think that taking a pristine pre-war Gibson and making it less original is a bad thing.


And they look on a tenor, regardless of beauty, as incomplete. A b@njo that can't go 'ping'? Preposterous

PS: Reread the attributes. It's Tony's banjer
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Post  Posted 21 Jul 2012 8:31 pm    
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Eugene Cole wrote:
Congratulations Tony; I hope it sounds as good as it looks. Are you planning to get a traditional looking neck or are you going to do something more creative? Are you going to go with a period scale length or tweak it to one which is more to your liking?

Please post some pictures of the final result.



Joachim Kettner wrote:
Beautiful!
Tony Williamson wrote:
gotta get frank neat to make a neck...

May I ask why?


Joachim; Tony plays banjo instead of collecting banjo's.

Banjo players do not think that taking a pristine pre-war Gibson and making it less original is a bad thing.

It is collectors that cringe at the thought.

With banjo's swapping a neck does not typically involve the same complexity of process that doing a neck replacement does on a set-neck guitar.

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Joachim Kettner


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Post  Posted 22 Jul 2012 12:03 am    
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Thanks Eugene.

Lane, how about this version of Cripple Creek? Her instrument looks a lot less expensive than Tony's banjo:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LXkM11kp_tg
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Tony Williamson

 

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Post  Posted 22 Jul 2012 5:01 am    
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lol. naw, it doesnt hurt to swap necks on a banjo. the tenor neck remains completely intact. the five string neck will completely match the tenor neck. inlay, grade of wood, material, frank neat worked for gibson making banjos for 30 years or more i guess. even the patina and yellowing of the finish will be so close it will look original. frank is the best with these old banjos. 5 string style 6's from the 20's are so rare i sure wouldnt have 30 to 60 grand to spend. most people have conversions, which are tenor or plectrum banjos (the pots are the same for a 5 string ) and have a matching neck made. if they sell it, and the customer wants it original, then we put the tenor neck back on. absolutely no alteration is done to the banjo. the new neck is made to fit the pot, not the other way around. ive seen hundreds of banjos, this is the 2nd or 3rd checkerboard ..tenor or otherwise..ive seen in 40 years. but the necks have two bolts. loosen the coodinator rods inside the pot, the neck comes right off.
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Tony Williamson

 

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Post  Posted 22 Jul 2012 5:06 am    
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It actually enhances the value because there is no alteration. kinda like a double shotgun with an extra set of fitted barrels.
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Post  Posted 22 Jul 2012 9:29 am    
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I agree with Tony - there is no devaluation in having a serious builder like Frank Neat custom-build a neck to fit on a nice old banjo like this. If it's done right, it is completely reversible and the old neck can be easily put back on at any time with no tell-tale signs.

The fact is that the market for these banjos is almost entirely composed of bluegrass players. In fact, I think a good neck like this does in fact increase not only the banjo's utility, but its financial value as well - the only caveat is that it be done correctly and reversibly. It's pretty much comparable to bolting a new neck onto an old Strat or Tele to, let's say, preserve the old one from wear or give the player a different neck profile or larger frets. Which points out the other advantage: you can have the 5-string neck made with any profile or fret size you like.
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Tony Williamson

 

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Post  Posted 22 Jul 2012 8:45 pm    
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george youve got some nice banjos son! not enough wear on the heads though, you need to pick more! real nice.i'll put a few more pics on here soon. ya'll will see why im so poor! lol
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