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Darrell Schmidt
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Charles City, Iowa, USA
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Posted 15 Jul 2012 4:07 pm |
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We have floor monitors.what else is there out there.i used to use in ear monitors,but things did not sound real good.
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Richard Sinkler
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aka: Rusty Strings -- Missoula, Montana
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Posted 15 Jul 2012 5:53 pm
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Well, you use floor monitors now, you tried and didn't like in-ears, the only thing left that I can think of are the "hot spot monitors" that mount on a mic stand. Some like them, I hate them.
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Darrell Schmidt
From:
Charles City, Iowa, USA
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Posted 15 Jul 2012 6:29 pm Monitors
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Something I will look into
Thanks
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Dave Hopping
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Aurora, Colorado
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Posted 15 Jul 2012 6:43 pm
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| The reason I like the hot spot type is that they're quieter,clearer,and more directional than wedges on the floor.Result-less stage volume to muddy things up and make people play loud,which increases stage volume/mud.OK,hot spot monitors don't have a huge FOH sound,but what you need a monitor for is reference,not entertainment.Let the customers have the huge FOH sound.It's what they're paying for. |
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Dan Beller-McKenna
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Durham, New Hampshire, USA
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Posted 16 Jul 2012 2:12 am
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Another problem with FOH quality floor monitors is that everyone (players, singers, sound engineers) wants to turn them up to FOH levels, thus encouraging players to bring up their volume accordingly. This is, IMHO, as much if not more of a contributor to deafening stage volume as any drummer (except, of course, a drummer with a floor monitor with FOH volumes!)
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Steve Humes
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Tampa, Florida, USA
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Posted 16 Jul 2012 2:26 am
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| Lots of ways to monitor, but first you have to define what you want or need to hear to play to. Some people prefer a bass heavy mix, some want to hear the rhythm guitar and vocal, etc. From there you can EQ that so you can hear your instrument. Try setting your floor monitor upright or on a milk crate or some other riser. There are many new personal mix type monitor mixers coming out on the market that can be used with a powered speaker, giving you control over the monitor mix. |
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Adam Sorber
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Pennsylvania, USA
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Posted 16 Jul 2012 5:11 am
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It took me a few shows to get used to in ear monitors. The first time I used them I tried to get too much in the mix and everything sounded very "washy" from all of the live instrument mics. After two shows I talked with our engineer and had him simplify my in-ear mix with my Steel first, then adding just a few other instruments that I couldn't hear from the stage volume alone. Since doing this I have been very satisfied with the ear-monitors.
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Richard Sinkler
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aka: Rusty Strings -- Missoula, Montana
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Posted 16 Jul 2012 6:58 am
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Dan said:
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| Another problem with FOH quality floor monitors is that everyone (players, singers, sound engineers) wants to turn them up to FOH levels, thus encouraging players to bring up their volume accordingly. This is, IMHO, as much if not more of a contributor to deafening stage volume as any drummer (except, of course, a drummer with a floor monitor with FOH volumes!) |
Sure glad someone else here feels the same as me. I have a question about monitors along these lines that I will post in another thread so as to not hijack this one.
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Steven Finley
From:
California, USA
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Posted 16 Jul 2012 7:52 am
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Get a bose line aray system no more monitors needed
no more feed back problems,system handles room of
500 people,weighs about 40 pounds |
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Dave Grafe
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Hudson River Valley NY
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Posted 16 Jul 2012 8:11 am
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Your floor monitors will work great IF you only put inot them what cannot be heard on stage without them. There is no point in having monitors for the vocalists if you then fill them up with guitars, drums and bass!
In-ears are a fine thing IF you have a savvy person to provide the mix for you, if not you are not going to be happy with the results.
Bose gear has so many problems that have already been well documented here, I'm not even going to get started.
The bottom line is that NO monitor system will help you heaqr if the musicans on stage are playing over the top of each other or with a lack of dynamics. Converesly, if the band is paying attention to each other and leaving space for each other to play in then you don't really need much in the way of monitors.
Like so many issues we all face, it's not the gear but the lack of skills that is the issue. |
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Kevin Mincke
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Farmington, MN (Twin Cities-South Metro) USA
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Posted 16 Jul 2012 8:39 am
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I usually carry my cheap "Sonic" with me on the occasion the floor monitors aren't right. Has an attenuator on it which helps.....
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Kevin Mincke
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Farmington, MN (Twin Cities-South Metro) USA
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Posted 16 Jul 2012 12:08 pm
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In fact, I see the Bose line array mentioned and is what I played with last night (smaller system) and ended up using my spot monitor in conjunction with the other two floors but they were focused more on the three front players. (just happened to have it handy & grab a pic)
I agree with Dan and have been there many times myself, the high end monitors that are usually enough to handle the main output of a group are often kicked way up & then here start the problems! |
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Donny Hinson
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Glen Burnie, Md. U.S.A.
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Posted 16 Jul 2012 2:05 pm
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monitor -n- mon-it-er.
def - a sound reinforcement device, often employed by singers to hear themselves when the band is too friggin' loud.
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