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Topic: tuning non pedal steels |
Pete Ethridge
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Mississippi, USA
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Posted 15 Jul 2012 8:05 am |
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Could someone tell the tuning on a non pedal steel with 3 necks?
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Lane Gray
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Posted 15 Jul 2012 8:28 am
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I'd suggest looking at "Brad's Page of steel" (it's in the "links" at the top pf the page.
There are approximately 97.75 standard 8 string lap steel tunings.
My choices would be: C6; E13 And 1 of the several flavors of A6
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Edward Meisse
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Santa Rosa, California, USA
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Posted 15 Jul 2012 6:52 pm
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I would say A6, E13 and one of several flavors of C6. 
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Wayne D. Clark
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Montello Wisconsin, USA
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Posted 16 Jul 2012 8:51 am
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Chris Gabriel
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Oregon, USA
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Posted 16 Jul 2012 9:52 am
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Whatever tuning you choose, just Leavitt on for awhile...
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Jean-Sebastien Gauthier
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Quebec, Canada
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Edward Meisse
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Santa Rosa, California, USA
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Posted 17 Jul 2012 8:52 am
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| Chris Gabriel wrote: |
| Whatever tuning you choose, just Leavitt on for awhile... |
Good idea. And well expressed.
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Jim Bates
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Alvin, Texas, USA
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Posted 17 Jul 2012 6:29 pm
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A little different take (all tunings from high string to low string):
A6th (E C# A F# E C# A E/F#) h-l Manually tune low E to F# as needed.
E13th (E C# B G# F#/E D B E) h-l Manually tune F# to E as needed.
E6th (G# E C# B G# E C# B) h-l Gets you the Don Helms sound for Hank's songs.
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Edward Meisse
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Santa Rosa, California, USA
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Posted 17 Jul 2012 11:17 pm
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Actually Jim, Don had an A on the bottom of his. b0b does something really interesting. Instead of having an E6 and a C6, he uses a D6. It works out nicely. So perhaps we should recommend a D6, an A6 and Leavitt. Alternatively, we could use the following D13 in place of the D6 F#-D-B-A-F#-E-D-C. That would give you pretty much what we're used to hearing from Don Helms and alot of Tom Morrell/Leon McAuliiffe as well.
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Steve Ahola
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Concord, California
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Posted 18 Jul 2012 11:31 am
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A little different take (all tunings from high string to low string):
A6th (E C# A F# E C# A E/F#) h-l Manually tune low E to F# as needed.
E13th (E C# B G# F#/E D B E) h-l Manually tune F# to E as needed.
E6th (G# E C# B G# E C# B) h-l Gets you the Don Helms sound for Hank's songs.
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Good choices! The A6 can easily be retuned to C6 for particular songs. Your E13th (with the 5th string tuned to F#)is a variation on the classic Leon McAuliffe tuning although he would use a G# rather than the B in the lower octave.
Your E6th tuning is very flexible. You could drop the 8th string from B to A for the actual tuning Don Helms used but I think many people will find the B to be more useful.
You can also raise the 7th string from C# to D to get the high E13th tuning; I like that because you get the major 7th interval between the 3rd and 7th strings. You also get the b5 (tritone) between the 5th and 7th strings.
With the 7th string raised to D you can also raise the 6th string from E to F# to add the 9th to the E13th chord for a jazzier sound.
Thanks!
Steve Ahola
P.S. If you can switch all 3 necks on at the same time I think that you want to choose the tunings with all 24 strings in mind since you could jump from one neck to another. (That is probably more applicable to the 16 strings on a double neck steel.)
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Jim Bates
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Alvin, Texas, USA
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Posted 18 Jul 2012 1:46 pm
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Steve,
Thanks for your expansion of the tunings. Yes, leaving all three necks on and using them on a song is quite challenging. I was lucky enough to sit by Leon and also Billy Bowmman (when he was with Bob Wills and had a 4-neck Fender))and watch both of them go back and forth on any neck to get 'the' chords as needed. These guys made it look so easy!
Thanx,
Jim |
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