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Charles Dennis

 

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Post  Posted 4 Jul 2012 7:27 am    
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hi guys,

I just joined. want to say howdy. I have been on a path that has led me here. I have played guitar for decades. have recently branched out a bit and now am interested in getting a lap steel. maybe a console. maybe both.
I am looking for advice about a couple instruments that I am gonna go check out tomorrow.
here is a link to a page that has the instruments:

http://www.topshelfmusic.com/page4.html

I am looking for thoughts about all the steels here.

there are 6. Smile

any thoughts about these will be greatly appreciated.

(I am messing around on a dobro and a national delphi right now. I am thinking that a lap or console steel might be an excellent addition to play.) Smile Smile Smile Smile Smile
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Earnest Bovine


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Post  Posted 4 Jul 2012 7:50 am    
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Prices seem very high.
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Charles Dennis

 

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Post  Posted 4 Jul 2012 8:00 am    
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acknowledged. thanks alot Earnest.

so high that you'd pass on all of them?
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Dennis Smith

 

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Covington, Georgia, USA
Post  Posted 4 Jul 2012 8:29 am    
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Hi Charles
Go look and play all the steels and see what you like. As to price for a better price you might get one from someone on the form. Also go to Gruhn and Elderly on the web and sometimes guitar center vintage will have a good deal.

Good luck and enjoy the one you get.
Dennis
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Charles Dennis

 

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Post  Posted 4 Jul 2012 9:13 am    
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thank you so much Dennis. (hey nice name. Smile )

do you have any thoughts on any of the specific ones on the page I gave a link to?
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Stephen Abruzzo

 

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Philly, PA
Post  Posted 4 Jul 2012 9:32 am    
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Yeah....this one intrigues me....the 1959 National/Tonemaster Console 6 steel for $499. The big IF about this is the Valco pup. If that pup is a full pup with no cardboard...and if it screams......that could be a keeper.....depending on what type of music you want to play.

Killer for rock and blues.

That seems to be the best price out of the lot....because of the legs.
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Charles Dennis

 

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Post  Posted 4 Jul 2012 9:45 am    
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thanks alot Stephen.

would you please tell me about how to determine what the scoop is with the pup?
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Stephen Abruzzo

 

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Post  Posted 4 Jul 2012 11:00 am    
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This should get you on the dance floor:

http://bb.steelguitarforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=192112&highlight=valco+pickup

http://bb.steelguitarforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=190712&highlight=valco+pickup

http://bb.steelguitarforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=151941&highlight=valco+pickup

The last one is especially good. Hope this helps.
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Charles Dennis

 

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Post  Posted 4 Jul 2012 12:09 pm    
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Stephen Abruzzo wrote:
This should get you on the dance floor:

http://bb.steelguitarforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=192112&highlight=valco+pickup

http://bb.steelguitarforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=190712&highlight=valco+pickup

http://bb.steelguitarforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=151941&highlight=valco+pickup

The last one is especially good. Hope this helps.



you rock. thanks alot Stephen!!! Smile


wow. just checked out the last link. thats comprehensive man.
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Dennis Smith

 

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Covington, Georgia, USA
Post  Posted 4 Jul 2012 1:55 pm    
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Hi
The tonemaster because of the legs but I think it's a $100. to high. But with me a guitar has to feel right and they all sound different. Go to Doug Beaumier video's on youtube and you can hear about a dozen or so different steel guitars played very well so you can see what sound you like.

My first was a teisco six string that sounds like a fender somewhat. Then I got a Ohau Diana Tonemaster that has a super strong pickup a Rick panda and a Gibson BR9. Then I got a Fender T8 strigmaster which I love.

If you learn to play I think you will want a double or triple neck eight string so you will have two or three tunnings without changing guitars.

Good Luck
Dennis
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Tom Pettingill


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Post  Posted 4 Jul 2012 5:53 pm    
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Stephen Abruzzo wrote:
Yeah....this one intrigues me....the 1959 National/Tonemaster Console 6 steel for $499. ...

That one caught my eye too. While not necessary rare, you don't see a lot of those long scale Tonemasters out in the wild.
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Joe Naylor


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Post  Posted 4 Jul 2012 5:57 pm     almost free
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I agree with Earnest some times you get advice here that is worth what you payed for it - zero dollars.

Just jokin lots of knowledge here and opinions

Joe Naylor
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Charles Dennis

 

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New York, USA
Post  Posted 4 Jul 2012 7:23 pm    
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thank you very much for the super advice Dennis.
I'll go and play these steels tomorrow. its gonna be interesting.

thank you Tom and Joe.

Dennis Smith wrote:
Hi
The tonemaster because of the legs but I think it's a $100. to high. But with me a guitar has to feel right and they all sound different. Go to Doug Beaumier video's on youtube and you can hear about a dozen or so different steel guitars played very well so you can see what sound you like.

My first was a teisco six string that sounds like a fender somewhat. Then I got a Ohau Diana Tonemaster that has a super strong pickup a Rick panda and a Gibson BR9. Then I got a Fender T8 strigmaster which I love.

If you learn to play I think you will want a double or triple neck eight string so you will have two or three tunnings without changing guitars.

Good Luck
Dennis
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Charles Dennis

 

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New York, USA
Post  Posted 6 Jul 2012 2:29 am    
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got national/tonemaster.

thanks for the help you guys.

next up. any comments on an 8 string jerry byrd fry pan? its one from the 70's.
thinking of giving it a shot.

any comments greatly appreciated.
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Dennis Smith

 

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Covington, Georgia, USA
Post  Posted 6 Jul 2012 9:45 am    
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Hi Charles

Great hope you enjoy the guitar. Could you post some better photos of the guitar, top, bottom and with legs. Maybe someday soon a sound sample.

As to the frypan if its in good shape an a good price get it. If you'er like a lot of us you'll have a half dozen before you know it.

Have FUN
Dennis
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Charles Dennis

 

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New York, USA
Post  Posted 6 Jul 2012 1:11 pm    
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just copied a picture from the web.

tried to paste. cannot. paste is greyed out.


sound clip?
only if I can play something decent enough to justify posting it.


any clue what a good price would be for the excel JB fry pan, if it is in decent shape??
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Tom Pettingill


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Post  Posted 6 Jul 2012 1:28 pm    
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Charles Dennis wrote:
got national/tonemaster. ...

Cool ... I'll bet you have a lot of fun with it!

I'm not much help with the Excel, but it has been discussed in detail, so maybe a form search will yield some fruit.

Anyways, good luck on the 8 string hunt Smile
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Charles Dennis

 

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New York, USA
Post  Posted 6 Jul 2012 1:47 pm    
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thanks for the reply Tom.

I'm gonna go play the tonemaster now.

first time playing a lap steel here at home. Smile
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J Hill

 

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Colorado, USA
Post  Posted 6 Jul 2012 4:25 pm    
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Be aware on the JB frypan that the knobs might get in your way? They don't bother some folks at all but I wanted one of these and didn't pursue it because of the knob placement. Good luck!
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Charles Dennis

 

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New York, USA
Post  Posted 6 Jul 2012 4:36 pm    
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thank you Leila.

I have read a teensy bit about these. I saw that someone removed the knobs and capped where they were.

I bought my first lap steel yesterday (with legs).

will welcome any more comments about the excel.

thanks,

Chasmsn
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