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Topic: What Pickup for S10 Emmons PP |
Danny Letz
From:
Old Glory,Texas, USA 79540
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Posted 7 Jun 2012 10:00 am |
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| I guess I'll get a lot of opinions, but I have a later model S10 Emmons Push Pull. When I got it, it had an E66 George L in it. That don't seem right to me. I thought the E66 was designed to make other brand guitars sound like a push pull. What do you real push pull guys think it ought to have? If you say Truetone, what winding? |
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Mark van Allen
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Watkinsville, Ga. USA
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Posted 7 Jun 2012 10:15 am
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Hi, Danny, I have an Emmons original in my S10. A truetone around 17.5- 18.5 K should get you in the ballpark. If you can't ever have any hum, you might try an Emmons 108N humbucking... they actually sound very close to single coils in an Emmons.
I'm itching to try the Telonics humbucking in an Emmons, but very satisfied with the SC I have in mine now.
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Bob Hoffnar
From:
Austin, Tx
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Posted 7 Jun 2012 10:34 am
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I'm getting ready to try one of my Tonealigner pickups in one of my pushpulls. Those old Emmons guitars sound remarkably good with just about any pickup in them as far as I can tell though. I would stick with the E66 unless there is something you don't like about it or I would find an old used stock Emmons single coil if I was concerned with it being in original condition. I tend to leave my vintage guitars alone as much as possible.
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Ben Lawson
From:
Brooksville Florida
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Posted 7 Jun 2012 12:31 pm
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Danny I had Harold Saunders repair the original pickups from my '76 P/P. Harold is in one of the Carolinas and does a great job. His email address is; hsaunders@embarqmail.com
He can rewind it to whatever K value you like.
I think it was Herb Steiner that mentioned Harold in one of his posts.
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Danny Letz
From:
Old Glory,Texas, USA 79540
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Posted 7 Jun 2012 5:08 pm
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What do you think the original pickup was wound to. Like I said, it's a later model with the Legrand type pedals and knees.
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Paul Sutherland
From:
Placerville, California
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Posted 7 Jun 2012 5:12 pm
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| I have an 83 push-pull with the LeGrand pedals. The pickups, which appear to be original, are single coils that measure out at 18.5K ohms. |
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Adam Goodale
From:
Pflugerville, TX
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Posted 8 Jun 2012 12:31 pm
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If it were mine, i would buy a true tone and have it wound to around 15.5k - 16k ohms. JMHO...
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Steve Hinson
From:
Hendersonville Tn USA
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Posted 8 Jun 2012 4:00 pm
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| I have E66s in 3 push pulls...I like 'em! |
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Herb Steiner
From:
Spicewood TX 78669
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Posted 8 Jun 2012 7:43 pm
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| Ben Lawson wrote: |
Danny I had Harold Saunders repair the original pickups from my '76 P/P. Harold is in one of the Carolinas and does a great job. His email address is; hsaunders@embarqmail.com
He can rewind it to whatever K value you like.
I think it was Herb Steiner that mentioned Harold in one of his posts.
Ben |
Yes, Harold Saunders does an excellent job and makes pickups that are identical to stock Emmons pickups. I have them in 3 of my PP's, and two of his pickups are in The Blade.
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Eric Philippsen
From:
Central Florida USA
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Posted 10 Jun 2012 3:11 am
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You're right in that you'll probably get a lot different opinions on this subject. Here's mine.
Yesterday I went to where I store my pedal steels. There the cases were, lined like soldiers against the wall. So, I counted 'em and there were 11. Ok, add the 2 at home and deduct one for being a Zum, one for being an empty case, and that makes
11 push pulls. Why so many? Well, there was a while when I just seemed to stumble across them at good prices.
Anyway, so what's my point and how does that relate to this thread's subject? It's this. Put a single coil Emmons pickup back in the thing. Keep it original. It'll sound fine. If and when you (or your heirs) go to sell it it will go fast. Otherwise, you're sure to hear something like, "do you have its original pickup?"
I oughtta' know. If I get a p/p with a non-original pickup in it, out it comes and an original is put in. |
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Tony Glassman
From:
The Great Northwest
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Posted 10 Jun 2012 6:09 am
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| Ron Jr will sell you an Emmons single coil.....they still can't be beat, in my book. |
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Lynn Stafford
From:
Ridgefield, WA USA
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Posted 10 Jun 2012 8:01 am Emmons Single Coil Pickups
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| Tony Glassman wrote: |
| Ron Jr will sell you an Emmons single coil.....they still can't be beat, in my book. |
I would have to agree as far as single coil pickups go. I still have a pair of Telonics humbucking pickups I had in an '89 LeGrande that I recently sold to a customer in Texas. His teacher, Neil Flanz advised him to go with the Emmons SC pickups that I offered as an option, so he did. I plan to put the Telonics pickups in a PP, as I thought they sounded about as close to an Emmons SC as you could get with a humbucker (quiet, of course but with lots of clarity and bite). I never got a chance to play that LeGrande on the bandstand before I sold it, so I'm very anxious to do that with this PP that I plan on keeping (at least for a while).
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Larry Moore
From:
Hampton, Ga. USA
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Posted 11 Jun 2012 6:04 am Emmons orginal PU
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I have a orginal Emmons 1967 S-10 ( the ones that were on a single frame )
It has the orginal single coil it mesures 14.20 Ohms
If I were looking for the old orginal PP sound I would give Ron Jr. a call to make a Emmons PU.
He does a pretty good job on them.
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Nathan Golub
From:
Durham, NC
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Posted 11 Jun 2012 7:57 am
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| When the front pickup gave out on my p/p I ordered a new one wound to about 17k from the Emmons factory. This was about three years ago. They got it to me pretty quickly and I've been very happy with it since. |
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