| Author |
Topic: Need a Measurement From Your Steels |
Jon Light
From:
Saugerties, NY
|
Posted 31 May 2012 12:36 pm |
|
I need the measurement from the center of the output jack on the end plate to the top of the deck. Does not need to be micrometer accurate. Closest 1/4" will do.
I have 5 PSG's here and each is quite different. I'd love to get the measurement on as many makes as possible and info such as "the **** steel guitar is 3 1/2" on the earlier models but changed to 4" after 1985...." gets bonus points and plaid stamps.
Thanks in advance for your data.
 |
|
|
 |
Chris Boyd
From:
Leonia,N.J./Charlestown,R.I.
|
|
|
|
Ken Pippus
From:
Langford, BC, Canada
|
Posted 31 May 2012 12:48 pm
|
|
Carter D-10, the step from one neck to the other is centered directly over the jack. 2" to E9 deck, 1-3/4" to C6.
What are you building?
KP |
|
|
|
Jon Light
From:
Saugerties, NY
|
Posted 31 May 2012 12:58 pm
|
|
For this project (for which I've now got all parts ordered or in house)
http://bb.steelguitarforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=226142
I am investigating then practicality of providing the option to plug the box directly into the jack in order to put the tone control right by your picking hand (wah!). It requires a stabilizing arm which is being a design challenge due to the variety of different placements of the jack.
Thanks, gents. Keep 'em coming, folks! |
|
|
|
Douglas Schuch
From:
Valencia, Philippines
|
Posted 31 May 2012 5:14 pm
|
|
Zumsteel Anniversary U-12, 1 3/8 inches to center of jack.
_________________
Bringing steel guitar to the bukid of Negros Oriental! |
|
|
|
Frank Montmarquet
From:
The North Coast, New York, USA
|
Posted 31 May 2012 6:24 pm
|
|
| Sierra U-12 2 1/2 to deck with arm rest, 2 3/4 to neck. |
|
|
|
Dick Sexton
From:
Greenville, Ohio
|
Posted 31 May 2012 6:33 pm Mine...
|
|
Derby SD10, 1 3/4 inches...
Marlen S10, 1 3/4 inches... |
|
|
|
CrowBear Schmitt
From:
Ariege, - PairO'knees, - France
|
Posted 31 May 2012 10:33 pm
|
|
on my Zum D10 just under 2"
the jack is smack dab in the middle - between the tuning windows |
|
|
|
Jon Light
From:
Saugerties, NY
|
Posted 1 Jun 2012 5:07 am
|
|
Thanks for the further additions. I welcome more.
My own info:
ShoBud S-12 (Pro 1)
--2 3/8"
Emmons SD-12 p/p
--1 7/8" to back neck
--2 1/8" to front neck
Fessenden SD-12 (2006)
--3" to back deck .......positioned under back deck; presumably would be centered between necks on a true D-12
This is way down near the bottom of the end plate. I'd be interested in getting more responses on Fessies as to whether these are just eyeballed or if they follow a template.
Carter SD-12 (1998)
--1 3/4" back
--2 1/4" front
BMI S-10 (1983)
--1 1/2"....... positioned on back apron |
|
|
|
Lane Gray
From:
Topeka, KS
|
Posted 1 Jun 2012 5:14 am
|
|
Right now I'm a couple hundred miles from my guitars (Zum and MSA), but remember that MSA put the output on the rear apron, not the endplate.
_________________
2 pedal steels, a lapStrat, and an 8-string Dobro (and 3 ukes)
More amps than guitars, and not many effects |
|
|
|
Michael Maddex
From:
Northern New Mexico, USA
|
Posted 1 Jun 2012 10:35 am
|
|
| Jon Light wrote: |
| . . . I am investigating then practicality of providing the option to plug the box directly into the jack . . . |
Nice to see you back and posting again, Jon.
In the FWIW department, I recently built a little black box to control the volume on a guitar with a pickup, jack and no controls. It plugs directly into the guitar and then the cord plugs into it. My feeling is that where the plug comes out of the box is a weak point in the design. If I were to do it again, I would try to come up with a design where I could use a short cord to the guitar and figure out some sort of a clamp/bracket to secure the box to the guitar.
The guitar in this case is a metal-body, square-neck tri-cone. Like all those hyphens?
Anyway, here's a photo:
The left photo is the top of the box; the right photo is to bottom with the back removed.
HTH. Good luck with your project.
_________________
"For every expert, there is an equal and opposite expert." -- Arthur C. Clarke |
|
|
|
Jon Light
From:
Saugerties, NY
|
Posted 1 Jun 2012 11:03 am
|
|
Hi Michael. I have done similar projects in the past and I agree---especially if your guitar has a tight fitting jack it can feel a bit hairy, pulling the box/plug out of the jack. It is a mechanical weak link and is the likely first point of failure, if and when....
I've got a slightly different approach in mind (which, forgive me, I will demonstrate if and when I use this option).
But one certainty---this 'feature', if I use it, will be supplemental. The primary implementation of the box will indeed be as a leg clip-on with female jacks. I'm being delayed by a back-order but I expect to have some pictures to show soon.
Thanks for sharing that, Michael. I appreciate it.
Why do I suddenly have an urge to go to Jack-In-The-Box for a burger? |
|
|
|
Clete Ritta
From:
San Antonio, Texas
|
Posted 1 Jun 2012 5:30 pm
|
|
Carter D10: 2" and 1 3/4" split same as above.
Fessenden U12: 3 1/4"
Mullen SD10 (narrow): 2 1/4" and 2 1/2" split
Clete |
|
|
|
Jan Ekenberg
From:
Sweden
|
Posted 2 Jun 2012 2:47 am
|
|
| Rains SD10 (2006): 2 1/4" and 2" (split as above). |
|
|
|
Darrell Grigsby
From:
Jonesburg, Missouri
|
Posted 2 Jun 2012 4:34 am
|
|
ShowPro-SD-10
Distance is split, as top is stepped. 2-13/16 and
3-1/16
Darrell Grigsby |
|
|
|
Larry Rafferty
From:
Ballston Spa, NY
|
Posted 2 Jun 2012 7:47 am
|
|
On The Pedalmaster the input jack is not on the end plate.
It is on the back (chair side). It is 2 3/4" from the end plate and 2 3/4" down from bottom of arm pad.
The Mullen Pre RP is 2 3/4" down from the end plate. The Dekley is 2 5/8" from the top of the end plate
_________________
Mullen D-10 8x5; Sho-Bud Super Pro D10 8x6; PedalMaster 5 Star SD-10 3x5; Dekley D-10 8x4;
Sho-Bud S-10 3x1; Fender Lap/Floor Steel; Peavey Power Slide; Supro Lap Steel; Peavey Nashville 400;
pair of Peavey Vegas 400's; Peavey NV112; Webb 614E with matching extension cabinet; Fender Twin Reverb and 3 cats.
They laughed when I sat down to play, cause' somebody pulled my chair away... |
|
|
|
Michael Maddex
From:
Northern New Mexico, USA
|
Posted 2 Jun 2012 8:33 am whoops!
|
|
Whoops! Forgot to answer the original question 
On my Fender 400 distance is 3 3/8"
Top edge is rounded over and set back a bit from the frame
_________________
"For every expert, there is an equal and opposite expert." -- Arthur C. Clarke |
|
|
|
Jon Light
From:
Saugerties, NY
|
Posted 2 Jun 2012 10:04 am
|
|
| I'm appreciating the contributions to my database. I'm getting a good picture. I welcome continued input. |
|
|
|
Joe A. Camacho
|
Posted 2 Jun 2012 11:19 am
|
|
| ZB's input jack is under the guitar. |
|
|
|
Steve Reynolds
From:
Illinois, USA
|
Posted 2 Jun 2012 3:24 pm
|
|
2009 MSA Legend D10
E9 - 1 1/2
C6 - 1 1/4
1999 LaGarritt D10
E9 - 2 5/8
C6 - 2 3/8
Steve R. |
|
|
|
Bob Kagy
From:
Lafayette, CO USA
|
Posted 3 Jun 2012 10:14 am
|
|
2009 GFI D10
2 1/2" to top of E9th deck |
|
|
|
Jon Light
From:
Saugerties, NY
|
Posted 3 Jun 2012 1:44 pm
|
|
| And again, thank you for the responses. I knew I'd get enough info to work with. |
|
|
|
Matthew Schwartz
From:
Kalamazoo, Michigan, USA
|
Posted 4 Apr 2013 5:50 am
|
|
My Stage One is 1 3/4"
_________________
Black Stage One Steel, White Pearloid Rogue Jersey Lightening Lap Steel, Rogue EA-3 Lap Steel, Epiphone EJ-200CE, Parkwood PW370M |
|
|
|
Jeff Scott Brown
From:
O'Fallon Missouri, USA
|
Posted 4 Apr 2013 6:03 am
|
|
GFI Ultra S-10 is 1 11/16".
_________________
GFI Ultra S10 Keyless
Peavey Nashville 112
Goodrich L120, BJS, Peterson StroboPlus HD |
|
|
|
Adrian Wang
From:
Singapore
|
Posted 4 Apr 2013 6:51 am
|
|
| Fessenden S10 3 inches |
|
|
|
