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Brian Henry

 

Post  Posted 26 May 2012 9:21 am    
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I am adding a 4th pedal and need a longer axle - I have 2 questions:

1. What are the Carter Axles made of?
2. Could I use aluminum round stock of the same thickness?

Many thanks!!
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Richard Sinkler


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Post  Posted 26 May 2012 10:29 am    
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I think aluminum would be too soft and the friction would wear down the rod, but not positive. It's been a while since I had my axle out, but I'm almost sure it is stainless. If it was plain steel, it would have to be plated so it doesn't rust.
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Bent Romnes


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Post  Posted 26 May 2012 11:58 am    
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I use 303 stainless steel in my pedal axles. I would imagine everyone would use some grade of stainless.
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Brian Henry

 

Post  Posted 27 May 2012 10:02 am    
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I bought my carter new and it has some kind of Black plastic rod. Any idea what it is?
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Richard Sinkler


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Post  Posted 27 May 2012 2:42 pm    
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I was just working on my guitar today and noticed the same thing. Might be Delrin. It's pretty tough whatever it is. There is no wear on it where the pedals rotate on it.

And now that I think about it,I remember when I bought a pedal kit from Carter to add a zero pedal, it came with the longer rod that was needed, and it was some kind of plastic.
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Post  Posted 27 May 2012 4:37 pm    
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Get in touch with Bud Carter. The plastic shaft is one piece. I changed it in a U12 Carter.
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Richard Sinkler


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Post  Posted 27 May 2012 4:46 pm    
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tb...

Are you getting the 4th pedal kit from Al Brisco? See if he includes the longer rod that is needed the way Carter used to.
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Brian Henry

 

Post  Posted 29 May 2012 11:58 am    
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I think it is black delrin -I wll check eBay for some. Al requires a $40 minimum
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Lane Gray


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Post  Posted 29 May 2012 12:26 pm    
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I checked no farther than google. Assuming 3/8", zorotools.com will sell you 6' for 4 bucks. Plus shipping.
A few entries down, San Diego Plastics sells black at 87 cents a foot
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John Billings


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Post  Posted 29 May 2012 1:42 pm    
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"It's been a while since I had my axle out,"

Yeah! Me too! Gotta find a new girlfriend!
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Richard Sinkler


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Post  Posted 29 May 2012 4:39 pm    
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John, I was wondering how long it would take for someone to comment on that.

On the minimum charge from Al Briscoe, that $40 is a little tough. I need a couple of the brass pins for the bellcranks, but $40 is a little steep. But, if you were buying the kit to add a 4th pedal from him, that would be way above the $40 minimum and I think he should add the longer rod as Carter used to do when they sold kits to add extra pedals. If you already have all the parts except the rod., then buying from the sources that were named is your best bet.
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John Billings


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Post  Posted 29 May 2012 4:42 pm    
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Couldn't help myself! I'm a musician!

Delrin actually seems like a good choice, as it's self-lubricative nature would work well against any wear. I'm trying to restrain myself,,,,,,,,,,
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Richard Sinkler


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Post  Posted 29 May 2012 5:03 pm    
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Quote:
Yeah! Me too! Gotta find a new girlfriend!


Believe me John, I feel your pain.
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John Billings


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Post  Posted 29 May 2012 5:06 pm    
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"self-lubricative nature"

Uhhhhh! No comment!
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Tony Prior


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Post  Posted 31 May 2012 10:10 am    
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The thread title is a bit misleading, it's not black plastic rod..it is Delrin...

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