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Topic: Any Fender 800 E9th players |
Ben Elder
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La Crescenta, California, USA
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Posted 24 May 2012 10:15 pm |
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I've taken a slight leap and will be moving from a five-pedal Fender 800 to one with six plus an added knee lever. I'll be picking it up in Oklahoma next month.
The old one (a slightly notorious candy-apple red one seen on the Forum at various times over the years and now residing in N. California) came with three pedals. I added two others to have the pedals go (EtoF)-A-B-C-(EtoEb) left to right.
The store-owner friend of mine who sold me the 6+1 reports that it is E9th, but he isn't a player and hasn't checked the pedal changes. (The KL lowers 8 & 4, although he didn't specifically say if that is G#-F# or G#-G.)
I'll see what I've got when I get there, but in the meantime, any Fender 800 E9th users out there and what is your setup?
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Erik Alderink
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Ann Arbor Michigan, USA
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Posted 25 May 2012 3:46 am
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I play a 2000 that was setup as an 8 x 4, with "Emmons" E9 on the far neck.
But it really wasn't me thing so I went back to my wierdo tuning.
As you know, you can swap these things around so fast that you can try just about anything on them in under 15 minutes.
I had no string breakage issues, even with really high tunings.
I just prefer it tuned a bit lower.
Oh, and I have a single pedal for the near (c6) neck that pulls 6 strings to make it e13. I have no issues pulling that many strings with one pedal. These guitars are so versatile that I honestly have ZERO interest in any other make.
My $.02 |
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Jamie Frost
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Spokane, WA
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Posted 25 May 2012 5:41 am
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| I picked up an 800 a few years back, it was set up 4x4. Day style with the E's on the right leg. LKL raising 1 and 7 to G. LKR lowering string 2 and 9 a half. Pedal 4 was lowering 5 and 10 to Bb but I've been using it to experiment with raising 1 and 2 (Tommy White) or lowering 5 and 6 (Franklin). |
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Ben Elder
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La Crescenta, California, USA
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Posted 25 May 2012 9:46 am
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Let me focus my question a bit: what are setups for 6 pedals, E9th, no knee levers?
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Fred Glave
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McHenry, Illinois, USA
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Posted 25 May 2012 11:34 am
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The beautiful thing about the Fender steel is that you are not buying a steel with a copedent per se.. You determine the tuning and what strings are pulled by whatever pedal (or lever) you want whenever or whereever you want.
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Erik Alderink
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Ann Arbor Michigan, USA
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Bob Carlucci
From:
Candor, New York, USA
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Posted 25 May 2012 2:56 pm
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My fender 800 is 6 and 4..
Pedal 123-standard emmons
Pedal 4- Lowers string 6 a full tone
pedal 5-lowers string 5 a full tone
pedal 6.. Raises string 1 a full, and string 2 a half
RkR- lowers strings 4 and 8 1/2 tone
RkL- raises strings 4 and 8 1/2
LkR- Lowers string 2 1/2 tone and a full toe in 2 steps
LkR- Raises string 1 1/2 tone, and lowers string 5 1/2 tone...
My 800 is a magnificent steel.. plays beautifully. As good as any pedal steel from the era it was built.
It does everything I need it to do.. It is not limited in any way as far as I am concerned, unless you REALLY need 3 up/ 3 down capability, or more than 10 changes on an e9 10 string steel... bob
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I'm over the hill and hittin'rocks on the way down!
no gear list for me.. you don't have the time......
Last edited by Bob Carlucci on 26 May 2012 2:37 am; edited 1 time in total |
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Ben Elder
From:
La Crescenta, California, USA
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Posted 25 May 2012 4:31 pm
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Thanks for the 800 manual. I missed out on an original on E9thBay a month or so back. I edited out a paragraph in the first post about whether it, like the 400/1000 manual downloadable at the Carter website, would also reference the older 6th tunings. In that expectation, I wasn't disappointed.
Still, I'm interested in seeing what other players do in E9th with these beasts when they have just the six pedals to work with.
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Dave Zirbel
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Sebastopol, CA USA
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Posted 25 May 2012 5:37 pm
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| But it really wasn't me thing so I went back to my wierdo tuning. |
What is your tuning?
I liked the Sneaky Pete B6 tuning for my 400 and may try a 10 string version. Also I'm looking at Red Rhodes E6 or E13 tuning, or a modified version.
I have a 2000 and now Ben's old 800 and plan on trying out a few things.
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Joshua Grange
From:
Los Angeles, California
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Posted 25 May 2012 9:45 pm
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| I like putting the E to F on the '0' pedal. That way you can use it with the A pedal with one foot. |
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Bob Carlucci
From:
Candor, New York, USA
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Posted 26 May 2012 2:40 am
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| Ben Elder wrote: |
Thanks for the 800 manual. I missed out on an original on E9thBay a month or so back. I edited out a paragraph in the first post about whether it, like the 400/1000 manual downloadable at the Carter website, would also reference the older 6th tunings. In that expectation, I wasn't disappointed.
Still, I'm interested in seeing what other players do in E9th with these beasts when they have just the six pedals to work with. |
I would put standard E9 changes on the extra 3 pedals,,, Both E's to F-both E's to Eb, and drop string 2 down a half and a full tone in two steps.. If you are fumble fingered, all 3 changes can be done in 10 minutes.. If you are mechanically inclined it takes 5...
btw, why not consider some knee levers??...bob
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