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Dave Sichak

 

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Post  Posted 17 May 2012 10:42 pm    
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Howdy,
I contacted Fender and they have no records to help me. My first steel guitar was a Fender 8-string electric Hawaiian Steel guitar I bought around 1970-1971. I learned from a booklet from a Belwin folio or something.

I had to put it aside about 5-10 years ago when my old amp gave way.

But I got it repaired early this year - the plug-in for the amp was loose and the volume and bass/treble controls needed cleaning. Yeah, it cost me more to repair it than I originally paid for it, but it's back in working order.

However, the repair shop put a new set of strings on it and to me, they're not the right gauge for the tuning I use. The top two strings seem to be too thin for my tastes. I wrote Fender, but they have no records related to a guitar that old and recommended I try the experts on this site.

The tuning I used and modified for my own personal tastes was E B G# E B G# E etc. Since I got used to the first five strings, simply repeated them in the lower bass strings so my mind knew where the notes were.

My question to folks here is - what would the original tuning have been for an 8-string Hawaiian steel guitar? And what gauge strings should I be using?

I'm also floundering a bit with the new amp - I can't seem to get the same sound I enjoyed on my old amp so it sounds like a steel guitar. The bass is way too heavy.

Appreciate any feedback / advice.

Cheers,
Dave
http://www.hillbilly-music.com
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Chas. J. Wagner


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Denver, Colorado USA
Post  Posted 18 May 2012 6:01 am    
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Here's a string guage guide and some common tunings...
http://www.hawaiiansteel.com/learning/gauges.php
(scroll down)
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Mike Neer


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Post  Posted 18 May 2012 6:10 am    
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The original tuning was probably E7 or C6:

E (.015) B (.018) G# (.024w) E (.030) D (.034) B (.038) G# (.044) E (.056).

Those are the gauges I would use for a short scale Fender.
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Dave Sichak

 

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Post  Posted 18 May 2012 8:05 am    
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Thanks. In checking the page on hawaiiansteel.com, it looks like I learned from a modified E7th tuning, so those gauges that were recommended here are what I'll try.

That page talks about long scale / short scale guitars. Judging by that description, my Fender is a long scale steel guitar. I have another older lap steel that I found once at a garage sale and just recently, an old Oahu lap steel. Both are shorter than the Fender.
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Mike Neer


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Post  Posted 18 May 2012 8:57 am    
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It is my understanding that the Deluxe 8 was only made in short scale of 22.5"--that is measured from the nut to the bridge.
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Frank Welsh

 

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Upstate New York, USA
Post  Posted 18 May 2012 9:19 am    
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Dave, I bought a Fender Deluxe 8 new in the 1960's and the factory strings it came with worked perfectly for my primary tuning at the time which was A6th (E-C#-A-F#-E-C#-A-F#). C6th would have worked just as well with those gauges as would some variation of E7th, E9th or B11th (just lower the fifth string of the A6th to a D# note to get a quick and convenient B11th tuning).

I don't know the exact gauges of the strings that came with the guitar but a typically gauged C6th or A6th set today should give you a lot of tuning flexibility.
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