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Topic: Let's talk about a 12 string tuning |
AJ Azure
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Massachusetts, USA * R.I.P.
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Posted 27 Apr 2012 5:47 pm |
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F#,B,E,G,A,D,E,G,B,D,E,C#(between the high B and D so sort of like an out of sequence E9 tuning on pedal steel)
That F# is below the low E on regular guitar so yeah looow range instrument. This will be for progressive rock / metal.
OK! Hate it, love it, puzzled by it? Fail to see my reasons? |
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Brad Bechtel
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San Francisco, CA
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Posted 28 Apr 2012 8:14 am
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Am I correct in assuming the strings go from low to high?
1. C#
2. E
3. D
4. B
5. G
6. E
7. D
8. A
9. G
10. E
11. B
12. F#
Not a good strumming tuning  but looks like a lot of chordal possibilities there.
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AJ Azure
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Massachusetts, USA * R.I.P.
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Posted 28 Apr 2012 8:50 am
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| Yep low to high. That all depends on what and what for you're strumming I've got power chords there as well as other inner parts. With that range strumming the whole 12 strings is a big sound that I wouldn't use as often as a 6 string tuning. |
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Len Amaral
From:
Rehoboth,MA 02769
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Posted 28 Apr 2012 10:08 am
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I have an MSA D-12 on order. One neck will be setup to bOb Lee's 8 string E6 tuning with 2 strings higher and 2 strings lower and the other neck will be a 12 string C6.
I'll have 24 strings and loaded for bear....
Lenny |
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AJ Azure
From:
Massachusetts, USA * R.I.P.
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Posted 28 Apr 2012 10:28 am
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| This tuning is going to go on a custom designed wearable lap steel so double necks nuh uh! It will also not be like every other wearable lap steel that forces you to treat it like a tray the cigarette girls used to wear lol little sneak peak. It's being designed by someone who used to make custom wheelchairs and disability aids. Revolutionary and groundbreaking are understatements and it's even going be done affordable. I am temporarily putting it on hold while I deal with the expense of addressing some new mobility issues but pics and info when I have them |
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Robbie Daniels
From:
Casper, Wyoming, USA
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Posted 1 May 2012 9:58 am
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I have a custom made S12 that I love to play. I have a C6 configuration tuning as follows, listed top to bottom.
1. D
2. B
3. G
4. E
5. C
6. A
7. G
8. E
9. C
10.A
11.F
12.C
Pretty basic, but I like the results it gets.
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Steve Benson
From:
Massachusetts, USA
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Posted 5 May 2012 9:10 am Hey AJ!
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Hey man I gave you a call. Slants must take some doing! Give me a shout back.
Steve
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Robbie Daniels
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Casper, Wyoming, USA
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Posted 5 May 2012 8:24 pm
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I use a 24" scale and don't have too many slants that I use. Most slants are half slants that require only 2 frets in the slant configuration. More single string whereas with my pedal steel I use more chords. I realy never gave it much thought until you asked. hanks for asking.
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Steve Ahola
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Concord, California
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Posted 6 May 2012 4:09 am Re: Let's talk about a 12 string tuning
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| AJ Azure wrote: |
| That F# is below the low E on regular guitar so yeah looow range instrument. This will be for progressive rock/metal. |
I've had trouble getting a good sound from very low notes on my lap steels. I could not imagine tuning them as low as that F#. Bass guitars have a longer neck than regular guitars so perhaps lap steels need a longer scale to handle very low notes. (Maybe the type of wood might have something to do with how low a note will sound right on a lap steel.)
Have you checked with MSA about the tuning you want to use? I think that they would have a good idea of how low you could go.
Steve Ahola
P.S. As for slants if I can get two strings to harmonize I'm happy. (My 3 string slants usually sound pretty sick.) I think that you can usually find two notes that capture the flavor of a particular chord. I guess I use slants mainly to harmonize single note lines on two strings. Like playing 6ths and using slants to get the harmony right.
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Robbie Daniels
From:
Casper, Wyoming, USA
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Posted 6 May 2012 7:06 am
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Steve, I totally agree with your theory on slants, specifically on neck scales longer than 22.5"
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AJ Azure
From:
Massachusetts, USA * R.I.P.
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Posted 10 May 2012 12:45 am
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we're going with a 26 inch scale (similar to my Ibanez saber with Ibanez brand flloyd rose converted to steel) and the guy who'll be doing it regularly works with touch style instruments so he's got a lot more experience going that low than any steel company would since it's an uncommon tuning. He said F# at 25.5 or 26 inches is as low as we could go with out going longer scale but, it's fine. NI floppiness. Slants are no problem on my Ibanez. I never slant at the first fret and everywhere else I've never had an issue.
I tend to use low tuning guitar strings rather than steel ones for my electric. Currently using Ernie Ball strings, the same set the low tuned shredders use, Works well. |
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Edward Meisse
From:
Santa Rosa, California, USA
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Posted 10 May 2012 3:38 pm
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Robbie, doesn't Mr. Anderson use a low D on his 12th string? What made you decide to go with the C?
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Robbie Daniels
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Casper, Wyoming, USA
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Posted 11 May 2012 10:05 am
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I am more familiar with just using the C instead of D. I tried the D, but the C gives me more minors and major seventh's that fit my style of playing. Maybe I need a 13th string. 
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