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Topic: Lower 3 and 6 |
Bent Romnes
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Posted 11 Apr 2012 10:55 am |
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Ok here's the question:
Say I want to lower 3rd string G# a half tone and 6th string a whole tone on the same lever (RKL)
I want both strings to be unison on the G# to G lower. Then I want the 6th string to lower another 1/2 tone to F# after the half stop. Normally this can't be done (or am I missing something?)
I thought of using the split tuner for the 3rd string to tune this note, but the pull rod would stop, unless I had a spring installed here to make up for the extra travel.
Any ideas beyond this one?
Like...raise 1st string a half tone instead? Then I could raise the 7th string along with it and get a cacophony of unisons...
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Jim Palenscar
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Oceanside, Calif, USA
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Posted 11 Apr 2012 10:15 pm
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| You could achieve that with a spring between the 3rd string lowering finger and the tuning nut combined with an Emmons-like thumb-screw mechanism from the other side limiting the lower for that string while the 6th string continues on. |
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Bob Hoffnar
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Austin, Tx
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Posted 12 Apr 2012 1:15 am
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Isn't that pretty much the same thing the 2nd and 9th string do already ? What do you use for that change ?
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Georg Sørtun
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Mandal, Agder, Norway
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Posted 12 Apr 2012 2:02 am
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I can't see why an end-stop (regular split-tuning) on the control-finger should not work, as the lower-finger should lower freely even if the control-finger stops.
I had that lower 3d and 6th string unison to G, then 6th string continues to F#, on the Dekley you know, before deciding that 3d string should also be lowered to F#. I did of course use split-tuning rods to engage balancing raise on 3d when it had reached G, and after a bit of fiddling with pull-rod balancing (seem to remember a gear-down was needed on the split-rod) 3d stayed perfectly stable at G once reached. The split-rod worked as a half-way feel-stop for 6th string, but the split-arrangement was harder to pull than the 3 string lower I have now. |
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Russ Wever
From:
Kansas City
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Posted 12 Apr 2012 2:10 am
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I want both strings to be
unison on the G# to G lower. |
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I had that lower 3d and
6th string unison to G |
Isn't the 6th string terribly
tight or the 3rd string awfully
loose if those two strings
are at unison?
I once lowered the 6th string by two
whole-tones (down to E) and found
it to be very delicate in its slackness.
~Russ
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Georg Sørtun
From:
Mandal, Agder, Norway
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Posted 12 Apr 2012 2:15 am
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| Russ Wever wrote: |
Isn't the 6th string terribly
tight or the 3rd string awfully
loose if those two strings
are at unison?
~Russ |
(Think we both forgot an "in" somewhere.)
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Quentin Hickey
From:
Nova Scotia, Canada
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Posted 12 Apr 2012 2:54 am
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| Maybe acheiving this with a different (lighter) guage 6th string coul be achieved easier Bent. |
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Bent Romnes
From:
London,Ontario, Canada
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Posted 12 Apr 2012 4:34 am
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Hi guys thanks for all the suggestions. I slap my head in embarrassment over the fact that I didn't think of the most simple solution 
I'll stop the 3rd string at a semitone with the split tuner, and let the lever carry on moving until the 6th drops a whole tone.
Thanks to Richard Burton for easing my seniors moment... 
Russ, what I meant by unison was same note but an octave apart of course.
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