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Topic: How to avoid bar dings. |
Ransom Beers
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Posted 2 Apr 2012 4:00 pm |
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I see a lot of the guitars for sale on the forum mention bar dings between the pad & neck & between the C6 & E9 neck.What I did to avoid this is use some velcro (the fluffy pc.)
,I'll cut a pc. to the length I want & stick it in the area I lay my bar between the pad & neck,keeps from dinging the mica.I also stick a pc. up by the tuning keys to lay my extra bar on,works great.I don't have any bar dings on my guitar & I've dropped it many times too. |
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Jerry Meek
From:
Colorado, USA
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Posted 2 Apr 2012 4:23 pm Bar dings
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| I have often wondered why 6 string pickers like to have a guitar that looks like it never seen a case and severly worn and steel players go more for looks than anything else. It seems strange to me that this is the case. Jerry |
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Roger Kelly
From:
Bristol,Tennessee
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Posted 2 Apr 2012 4:27 pm
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Good Idea Ramsom....that's news I can use!  |
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Richard Sinkler
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aka: Rusty Strings -- Missoula, Montana
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Posted 2 Apr 2012 5:43 pm
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Well Ransom, I find I get most of my bar dings when I drink too much. If the bartender doesn't cut me off in time, I fall and DING my head against the bar.
I'm pretty good at not dropping my in the first place (wasn't always the case though). On a lacquer guitar, I usually put my bar on the strings at the key head instead of between the necks to keep from messing up that space. Mica guitars are more forgiving.
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Carter D10 8p/8k, Dekley S10 3p/4k C6 setup,Regal RD40 Dobro, Recording King Professional Dobro, NV400, NV112,Ibanez Gio guitar, Epiphone SG Special (open D slide guitar) . Playing for 54 years and still counting. |
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Ransom Beers
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Posted 2 Apr 2012 5:52 pm
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| Yeah I used to ding my head a lot too ,specially when I was on the west coast running with Jimmy Nichols & that gang 'O' horse thieves.But I got the idea to put the velcro when I did drop the bar on my then brand new BSG guitar.I did as you did Richard but found it knocked it out of tune slightly,or I thought it did. |
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Barry Blackwood
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Posted 2 Apr 2012 8:22 pm
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My method as well Richard, and it works - until somebody sits in and carelessly leaves the bar in between necks when finished which, I'll grant you, isn't very often …
Ransom, I haven't experienced any perceptible detuning because of this. |
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Chris Lucker
From:
Los Angeles, California USA
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Posted 2 Apr 2012 8:24 pm
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Place your bar on the cradle of strings inside the keyhead. Your bar hand is on that end of the guitar already.
I used to own the 1957 Sho-Bud that Al Udeen played for a long time. I do not recall any bar dings. He did something right.
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Chris Lucker
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Carl Williams
From:
Oklahoma
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Posted 3 Apr 2012 1:47 pm Bar Dings or DENTS???
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| I've seen many folks placing their bar on the keyhead strings or just "layin" it down on the steel itself. I've found that if you just get into the habit of placing your bar either in your pocket if you're leaving your steel on break or getting a bar/pick holder for the right rear leg, you'll eliminate most of these problems. I believe that the strings already have enough tension on them without the extra weight being added on them---Could, just could be the cause of a little detuning due to one or more tuning key problems. YMMV of course... |
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Larry Baker
From:
Columbia, Mo. U.S.A.
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Posted 3 Apr 2012 2:42 pm
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I've found that I don't have a problem with bar dings if I just stay out of those places!!!!
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Richard Sinkler
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aka: Rusty Strings -- Missoula, Montana
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Posted 3 Apr 2012 3:20 pm
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If the weight of the bar placed on the strings at the keyhead cause detuning, you have bigger problems than where to place your bar on break.
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Carter D10 8p/8k, Dekley S10 3p/4k C6 setup,Regal RD40 Dobro, Recording King Professional Dobro, NV400, NV112,Ibanez Gio guitar, Epiphone SG Special (open D slide guitar) . Playing for 54 years and still counting. |
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Carl Williams
From:
Oklahoma
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Posted 3 Apr 2012 4:12 pm
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Richard,
That's why I said you "may" have tuning key problem(s). Now, if you've been placing your Bar on your strings at the KeyHead...press on. But I'm not sure the steel builders intended for the strings to be a cradle for d'bar. I do think it looks kinda cool though!  More power to ya... |
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Richard Sinkler
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aka: Rusty Strings -- Missoula, Montana
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Posted 3 Apr 2012 8:47 pm
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Actually Carl, I place my picks and bar in between the necks as I have a mica guitar. But on lacquer guitars, I would lay it in the keyhead closer to where the tuning keys are and not the center. I've never noticed the guitar going out of tune.
In fact, I saw Jeff Newman playing a song (Someone to Give My Love To ?)where he would push down on a string or two behind the nut to raise the pitch and I tried it myself, and that didn't even throw the guitars out of tune.
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Carter D10 8p/8k, Dekley S10 3p/4k C6 setup,Regal RD40 Dobro, Recording King Professional Dobro, NV400, NV112,Ibanez Gio guitar, Epiphone SG Special (open D slide guitar) . Playing for 54 years and still counting. |
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Wayne Quinn
From:
Cape Breton.NovaScotia
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Posted 5 Apr 2012 5:17 pm
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Ransom i to have a half inch thick memory foam between the 2 necks at the peg head end.set the bar there when not in use sit's there really nice.no noise or chipping when i set it down works really well.only noise or scuffs i get is when the bar slides out of my hand and over the front she goes.hate that.(' ') |
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Ransom Beers
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Posted 6 Apr 2012 5:43 am
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| Well this is something I do,if you think it's not for you then by all means don't do it but don't put me down for it,it was just a suggestion.As the saying goes "It's not chiseled in stone"Do what ya wanna do. |
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Jack Stoner
From:
Kansas City, MO
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Posted 6 Apr 2012 6:14 am
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Bobbe Seymour used to sell self adhesive guards that mounted between the necks. Don't know if he still has these.
I don't have any bar marks on the mica on my Franklin, although I do stand up the bar near the key heads at times.
I agree with what someone else said - I avoid playing in bars. |
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Erv Niehaus
From:
Litchfield, MN, USA
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Posted 6 Apr 2012 7:01 am
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I like a little wooden thingie that clamps to the leg of my guitar. It holds my bar, my tuning thing, the little allen wrench for my Zum Hybrid and a pencil. There used to be a fellow who sold them on e-bay, real handy. In fact the one I'm using now was sent to me by our buddy, Crowbear.  |
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Dale Rottacker
From:
Walla Walla Washington, USA
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Wayne Quinn
From:
Cape Breton.NovaScotia
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Posted 6 Apr 2012 11:51 am
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Hi Ransom.wow man i surley was not putting you down i thought it was a great idea that;s why i posted.i was just saying that i used the foam and it also worked well.(' ') |
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John Drury
From:
Gallatin, Tn USA
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Posted 8 Apr 2012 5:13 am Re: How to avoid bar dings.
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| Ransom Beers wrote: |
I see a lot of the guitars for sale on the forum mention bar dings between the pad & neck & between the C6 & E9 neck.What I did to avoid this is use some velcro (the fluffy pc.)
,I'll cut a pc. to the length I want & stick it in the area I lay my bar between the pad & neck,keeps from dinging the mica.I also stick a pc. up by the tuning keys to lay my extra bar on,works great.I don't have any bar dings on my guitar & I've dropped it many times too. |
Ransom,
Right on, been doing that for years, works great! comes off with no problem also. Looks much better than metal strip IMO
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John Drury
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Dennis Saydak
From:
Manitoba, Canada
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Posted 8 Apr 2012 6:52 am
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I have a lovely laquered Williams PSG and I'd really hate to get a bar ding on it. So,I made a custom fit, easily removeable protector strip between the pad and neck from 1/4" thick Sitka spruce. I think it's even bomb proof. 
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Just when you think you're getting ahead in the rat race, the rats get faster. |
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Tony Glassman
From:
The Great Northwest
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Carl Williams
From:
Oklahoma
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Posted 8 Apr 2012 4:25 pm
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| That's what I'm talking about Tony! I've been using the old "Dixon Dock" for the past 7-8 yrs to hold my bar/picks and I'll probably order one of these fine looking docks...Thanks for posting the website. Carl |
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