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Topic: How many lower the 10th string B to A? |
Larry Behm
From: Mt Angel, Or 97362
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Posted 29 May 2002 4:05 am
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It makes a nice counter to raising the 6th string G# to A at the same time.
Larry Behm |
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Kenny Forbess
From: peckerwood point, w. tn.
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Posted 29 May 2002 5:12 am
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I've been useing it a good while,and have coaxed most of the guy's around the Memphis area into trying it.
Works really well in lot's of phraseing.
I have it on my RKR.
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66 Emmons 8 & 8
D-10 Derby 9 & 7
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Pete Burak
From: Portland, OR USA
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Posted 29 May 2002 6:29 am
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Hi Larry,
The guys at the BMI booth in St.Louis turned me onto this change about 3 years ago. On S12U it's string 12, but I don't see why it wouldn't work on string 10 of a standard E9 10 string.
I guess Zane Beck and Julian Tharpe were hip to this change back in their days.
I have it on the A pedal, so with A+B down you get a huge bottom end that can support several different chord forms depending on what strings you pick.
I have installed it on my Push Pull also and it was pretty easy. I got a rod from Home Depot, then all you need is a bell crank and some lock collars.
Nice change! |
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Bob Farlow
From: Marietta,GA,
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Posted 29 May 2002 7:07 am
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I lower 5 & 10. |
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Pete Burak
From: Portland, OR USA
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Posted 29 May 2002 8:29 am
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Bob,
Do you have unison A's on stings 5 and 6 with A+B down?... or are you using an open A6th tuning where the open tuning is egual to A+B down, and you lower strings to get E9? |
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Jerry Hayes
From: Virginia Beach, Va.
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Posted 29 May 2002 8:41 am
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I haven't seen him in about 16 or 17 years but an old bud of mine in Southern California named James O'Rafferty who was a really hot steel player used to do this change. He used it on pedal 1 where he raised his 5th string to C# and lowered the 10th to A. This was pretty cool....he also tuned his 9th string to C# so he got a good A6th. with the A&B pedals down with no D note to pick around.
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Livin' in the Past and the Future with a 12 string Mooney tuning.
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Tony Dingus
From: Kingsport, Tennessee, USA
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Posted 29 May 2002 8:55 am
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I lower my 10th with pedal C. Pedals B & C
with 9th lowered to c# gives a good bottom end for A6th, strings 5 thru 10 anyway.It
comes in handy for me since all I have is a single neck.
Tony
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C Dixon
From: Duluth, GA USA
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Posted 29 May 2002 9:03 am
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Is this not the PF pedal change? Lowering 5, 6 and 10 a whole tone?
It becomes strings 5, 6 and 9 on my U-12. Great change.
carl |
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Marc Friedland
From: Fort Collins, CO
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Posted 29 May 2002 9:42 am
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Yes, I have it on my left knee vertical lever on my Carter S10 3 & 5. I have that same vertical lever lower my 5th string "B" only a half step to Bb. For you "newbies", the idea is not to play both the 5th & 10th strings at the same time in this instance, but to have more options available in conjunction with other string combinations. -- Marc |
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b0b
From: Cloverdale, CA, USA
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Bob Farlow
From: Marietta,GA,
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Posted 29 May 2002 11:28 am
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Pete, with A & B pedals down strings 5 & 10 are raised to C#. My LKL lowers 5 & 10 a half step. [This message was edited by Bob Farlow on 29 May 2002 at 12:30 PM.] |
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chas smith R.I.P.
From: Encino, CA, USA
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Posted 29 May 2002 11:33 am
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I have it on two guitars, my 9th string is C#, so pedal 4 lowers 10 -> A and raises strings 5 and 6 to A and C# which makes an A6 with a maj 7th (G#) on top for 8 strings worth of emergency swing. |
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Bobby Lee
From: Cloverdale, California, USA
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Posted 29 May 2002 2:20 pm
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"Emergency swing"? |
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Donny Hinson
From: Glen Burnie, Md. U.S.A.
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Posted 29 May 2002 2:32 pm
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I started using that change over 30 years ago! I have it on the same knee lever that lowers the 2nd a full tone. When using it with the "A" pedal (strings 2,6,& 10), it provides the most beautiful IV-V7-I chord resolve on the instrument (IMHO). However, that's not the reason I put it on there. The actual reason I started using it was so I could play Don Rich's licks on the Buck Owens songs.
You see, we didn't always have the luxury of having a lead guitar player. And when we didn't, I was expected to do all those classic "tele-licks". |
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Chip Fossa
From: Monson, MA, USA (deceased)
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Posted 29 May 2002 2:42 pm
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I lower string 12[B] to A on my U-12
Williams, 8 x 6. |
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