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Andy Volk


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Post  Posted 10 Mar 2012 6:48 am    
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Regardless of whatever steel guitar that is, whatever genre of Latin music and wherever it was taped, the steeler is having fun and the crowd is enjoying the music. I like how he adapts traditional guitar triplet runs to the steel.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SL86e7RjKTQ&feature=related
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Mike Neer


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Post  Posted 10 Mar 2012 7:58 am    
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I liked that!

There is so much potential for the steel in Latin music. I spend all of my time now studying Brazilian and Latin Jazz in hopes being able to tap into it.
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Peter Jacobs


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Post  Posted 10 Mar 2012 8:17 am    
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Thanks for posting this -- the steel fits perfectly in this style of music.
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John Mulligan

 

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Post  Posted 10 Mar 2012 8:53 am    
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Ry Cooder got the idea of blending steel with Cuban son music. I don't know if he started it or just popularised it. His playing on Buena Vista Social Club is masterful; understated, often subtle and with unbelievable tone.

Check Joaquim Santana; he has an interesting style.
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Jim Pitman

 

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Post  Posted 10 Mar 2012 9:09 am    
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Indeed, that is so cool. A duo entertaining the mixed crowd of young and old and the guy's playing an 8 string lap steel.
You know I've been thinking how much of a dinosaur I've become musically....and then i see something like this...those people are digging it.
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Mike Anderson


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Post  Posted 10 Mar 2012 9:36 am    
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I love Latin music and have played it for a living, and this is cool. But that said - I LOVE being a dinosaur! "Dinosaur" for me is a compliment meaning "has good taste". Smile
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Carlos Polidura


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Puerto Rico
Post  Posted 10 Mar 2012 1:19 pm    
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Most people think that the steel guitar is limited to x- type of music, but as we can see it is not. Click here, yours truly... WWW.YOUTUBE.COM/SERAFINPOL
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Stephan Miller

 

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Silver Spring, Maryland, USA
Post  Posted 10 Mar 2012 2:52 pm    
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Carlos-- Watched some of your lap steel music, also in a traditional Latin style. (Maybe a little Hawaiian also, just around the edges? Smile ) Enjoyed it-- your playing is very polished. That's a Dynalap you're playing, right?
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Carlos Polidura


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Post  Posted 10 Mar 2012 3:20 pm    
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Hi Stephan. Thanks for your compliment. Yes it is a Dynalap. I bought it about four years ago. I may say that I try to blend some hawaiian sound on the latin music. Works well for me.
Thanks
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HowardR


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Post  Posted 11 Mar 2012 7:23 pm    
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I just spent 8 days in Havana (Habana)this past February.......I saw a lot of music going on but no steel guitar.....I even brought my bar & picks just in case.....
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AJ Azure

 

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Post  Posted 12 Mar 2012 8:55 am    
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I have one word for you Piazzola. Start with Libertango, continue to Adios Nonino and continue from there.Rinse, repeat Smile
I am currently working on some fusion-esque renditions.
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HowardR


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Post  Posted 12 Mar 2012 9:41 am    
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AJ Azure wrote:
I have one word for you Piazzola.



Plain cheese or with mushrooms & sausage?......
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Michael Stover


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Kansas City
Post  Posted 12 Mar 2012 9:48 am    
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Great clip Andy, thanks for posting. I showed this to a friend who's well-versed in Latin music, and he identified the song form and rhythm as huapango, the music of the eastern region of Mexico known as Huasteca. So the clip is probably from Mexico, but the music betrays a strong Cuban influence due to proximity.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Huapango
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Mike Neer


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Post  Posted 12 Mar 2012 10:14 am    
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HowardR wrote:
AJ Azure wrote:
I have one word for you Piazzola.



Plain cheese or with mushrooms & sausage?......


Can always count on Howard for the extra cheese.

There was another good steel player from South America I posted about a few years ago named Poly:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GsywqUXBoZk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LLlw9w9ipC0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pK2QD_qiI_k

I really like the way he phrases. Really important in this music.
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Alexander Stepanenko


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Post  Posted 13 Mar 2012 10:59 pm    
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Very interesting topic.
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Bob Stone


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Gainesville, FL, USA
Post  Posted 14 Mar 2012 5:20 am    
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Hi,

Yes, a most interesting topic. I play several bossa novas and am itching to play some tangos.

Here's a nice cumbia I worked out on lap steel with an accordion player friend who does a lot of Latin music (his wife is Brazilian). We did it in G minor, and it fell nicely in C6. Sadly, we abandoned it because we couldn't get our drummer friend to do the proper rhythm. Ry Cooder recorded it (on guitar, not steel) on his Mambo Sinuendo album.

This video is enjoyable on many levels...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NltpAfEqR6E

Also, as a point of interest, there are hundreds of recordings in the Arhoolie Foundation's Frontera Collection of Mexican music 78s and 45s that include Hawaiian guitar solos. Steel works especially nice with Tex-Mex boleros.

Buena suerte,

Bob
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Paul DiMaggio

 

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Fort Nelson, British Columbia, Canada
Post  Posted 26 Mar 2012 9:55 am    
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I just got back from 2 weeks in eastern Cuba. I visited several Casa de Trovas and Casa de Culturas and talked to quite a few musicians. I asked about steel guitars in Cuban music and none had ever seen them played in Cuba. We stayed at the Brisas hotel in Guardalavaca a few nights and I heard a band playing at a restaurant, they were very good. Older gentlemen, and a bit of an odd combination for a Cuban band, 2 guitars, a tres, and the percussionist played maracas, and guiro, no bass,no clave and no drums of any kind. When they went on a break I ended up talking to the percussionist about music in general. When he asked what I played I had a hard time explaining what a steel guitar was, my spanish is not that good and his english was about same. So I went to my room and got my bar and picks and when I arrived back the other guys were sitting at the table. When I pulled them out, the 2 guitarists got really excited. Turns out their father had played "guitarra havaiana" back in the 40s and 50s. The younger of the 2 said he used a knife the older one said he used a round rod but long and held like a knife. I asked specifically what kind of music he played,and they said Cubano.
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Paul DiMaggio

 

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Fort Nelson, British Columbia, Canada
Post  Posted 26 Mar 2012 10:09 am    
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I don't know how good of a player their father was but if the talent shown by his sons is any indication,he was one heck of a player. The percussionist has been teaching classical guitar for 15 yrs in Holguin city but bows to those 2 old guys' expertise.
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Kevin Brown


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Post  Posted 26 Mar 2012 3:47 pm    
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wow, im hooked, wheres my passport ! Been listening to paraguyan harp music for years, this isnt far of it. Heres another guy, talk about touch n tone.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XHZLe7B86Io&feature=related
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Michael Lee Allen

 

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Post  Posted 26 Mar 2012 6:06 pm    
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Michael Lee Allen

 

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Post  Posted 29 Mar 2012 8:48 am    
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Michael Lee Allen

 

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Andy Volk


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Post  Posted 29 Mar 2012 12:00 pm    
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Tono Fuentes ....


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