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Topic: Lifting the bar hand off the strings for added sustain,tone |
Wayne Franco
From: silverdale, WA. USA
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Posted 26 Mar 2012 9:45 am
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I've never hear anyone explain as a fundamental on when to lift the bar hand ring and pinky fingers up to enable more sustain and tone. I've heard that it should be done above the 12th fret but never as a thought process when exactly to do it until it becomes automatic. Seems like all the pro players do it. Some of the best I personally know of is Randy Beavers, Paul Franklin, Mike Johnson and many more. Can somebody explain what one might think about to learn this technique.
Thanks
Wayne Franco
Last edited by Wayne Franco on 26 Mar 2012 2:34 pm; edited 1 time in total |
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Gary Lee Gimble
From: Fredericksburg, VA.
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Posted 26 Mar 2012 10:19 am
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when to lift the bar hand up |
Wayne, I believe you meant to say or make reference to elevating just the bar hand fingers? If so, noodle around with different frets including below fret 12 and pick some double stops, triads; then just listen...If you don't hear any difference, then I prescribe Phillips O Magnesia, to clear up your ears and head.... _________________ Assorted gear and a set of hands...
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Keith Davidson
From: Nova Scotia, Canada
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Posted 26 Mar 2012 10:53 am
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Someone correct me if I'm wrong but I thought I read somewhere that Tommy White lifts his bar fingers off for more sustain but only on - this is where I'm not sure - any thing with E, B, or A chords, everything else he leaves the fingers down as it produces too many harmonics.
I stand to be corrected but he does do it, I might have it backwards. |
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Chris Reesor
From: British Columbia, Canada
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Posted 26 Mar 2012 11:42 am damping behind bar
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Think you might have it backwards, Keith, if I'm reading you right. The 5th, 7th, and 12th frets are the harmonic nodes where you must damp behind the bar, unless you want the strings behind to ring out, which gives a neat kind of chorus type effect.
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Wayne Franco
From: silverdale, WA. USA
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Posted 26 Mar 2012 1:22 pm Hey Gary give me the milk "O" magnisia
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Sure I can hear the difference. I just wanted someone who may teach it to chime in on a basic rule as to when to do it. All I have heard is what Tommy White said about it quite a while ago with the caveat not to do it at the 5, 7 and 12 frets because of harmonics. However I do agree with what you said that if you just concentrate doing the finger lifts you will adjust on your own as to when it might be adventitious your overall tone. |
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Lane Gray
From: Topeka, KS
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Posted 27 Mar 2012 5:34 pm
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If you play with a lot of staying on one fret, moving from string to string, I can see it. too much bar scrape sound if you move up and down the neck, IMO. _________________ 2 pedal steels, a lapStrat, and an 8-string Dobro (and 3 ukes)
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