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Topic: Red Rajah/Black Phoenix? |
James Hartman
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Pennsylvania, USA
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Posted 27 Mar 2012 8:18 am |
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Anyone know if the Red Rajah/Black Phoenix bars are still available? The Brattain Guitar Products site doesn't seem to be up anymore.
If not, is anyone else making this type bar? I like my Black Phoenix. |
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Michael Nemick
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Caseville, Michigan, USA
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Posted 27 Mar 2012 8:39 am
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For a Red Rajah you can try Chuck Brattain. I have one on the way. His e-mail is chuckguitar@msn.com or call (972) 286-6922. Who made the Black Phoenix?
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Stephan Miller
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Silver Spring, Maryland, USA
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Posted 27 Mar 2012 9:24 am
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| Chuck would be the guy to contact about the powder-coated Black Phoenix bar. |
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Michael Nemick
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Caseville, Michigan, USA
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Posted 27 Mar 2012 9:36 am
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Thanks Steve.
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James Hartman
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Pennsylvania, USA
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Posted 27 Mar 2012 9:39 am
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Thanks, guys. Good to learn he's still in business; evidently, he just let the website lapse.
I forget the difference between the Red and Black bars - vaguely recall different coating material, one perhaps a harder surface...? |
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Michael Nemick
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Caseville, Michigan, USA
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Posted 27 Mar 2012 10:05 am
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I don't think he is making them I believe he is just selling what he has left.
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James Hartman
From:
Pennsylvania, USA
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Posted 27 Mar 2012 10:09 am
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| Michael Nemick wrote: |
| I don't think he is making them I believe he is just selling what he has left. |
Ah, too bad. Guess I should act quickly if I want another one.
What's the current price? Got mine years ago, can't remember at all what I paid for it. |
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Stephan Miller
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Silver Spring, Maryland, USA
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Posted 27 Mar 2012 10:13 am
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James, I had them both at the same time a few years back-- I believe the BP had the "harder" coating. I remember the RR would shed red powder-- slowly, over time & in small amounts-- onto the fretboard. (Part of that I'm sure was my heavy left hand. Chuck offered re-coating for a small fee, as I recall.)
Both bars were about the best as far as being able to maintain your grip. |
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James Hartman
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Pennsylvania, USA
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Posted 27 Mar 2012 10:27 am
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| Stephan Miller wrote: |
James, I had them both at the same time a few years back-- I believe the BP had the "harder" coating. I remember the RR would shed red powder-- slowly, over time & in small amounts-- onto the fretboard. (Part of that I'm sure was my heavy left hand. Chuck offered re-coating for a small fee, as I recall.)
Both bars were about the best as far as being able to maintain your grip. |
That would make sense as to my choice of the Black Phoenix. I do like the feel. I think the biggest plus for me is the weight seems just right for the size. I was going to try one of the Paloma stoneware bars until I learned they're quite light in weight. The BP is 5.3 oz. @ 3.0" x 0.765" |
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Michael Nemick
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Caseville, Michigan, USA
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Posted 27 Mar 2012 11:12 am
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I was given a Paloma stone and gave it away to someone else just for that reason. Too damn light. Now this Red Rajah is a monster. 7/8" x 3-1/4" and weighs in at 8.3 ounces. Hell you don't need a heavy hand with this. I am used to my E.G. Smith I use for my Reso and Ohau's is a mere 5.0 ounces and you don't need a very heavy hand even with it.  I tell you this if you use it first it's like swinging a bat with weights on it before you're up. Then I pick up the Smith and holy crap it feels like a Paloma.
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Morgan Scoggins
From:
Georgia, USA
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Posted 27 Mar 2012 2:07 pm
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I bought a RR bar a few years ago and it was the best bar for me. I have trouble gripping the highly polished steel bars. The powder coating wore off the bar pretty fast, but I could use it by kind of favoring the one side with more coating.
I wanted to get another RR and sent an email to Chuck but never got a reply.
If anyone out there knows where I can get a powder coated bar or any bar that is easy to grip, i would appreciate a "heads up"
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Stephan Miller
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Silver Spring, Maryland, USA
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Posted 27 Mar 2012 2:28 pm
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| Morgan Scoggins wrote: |
If anyone out there knows where I can get a powder coated bar or any bar that is easy to grip, i would appreciate a "heads up" |
Tribotone bars-- a bit pricey, but worth it. Super durable, and very easy to grip... |
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Michael Nemick
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Caseville, Michigan, USA
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Posted 27 Mar 2012 2:38 pm
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| Morgan Scoggins wrote: |
I bought a RR bar a few years ago and it was the best bar for me. I have trouble gripping the highly polished steel bars. The powder coating wore off the bar pretty fast, but I could use it by kind of favoring the one side with more coating.
I wanted to get another RR and sent an email to Chuck but never got a reply.
If anyone out there knows where I can get a powder coated bar or any bar that is easy to grip, i would appreciate a "heads up" |
If you would like a Red Rajah I will sell you one of mine for $30.00 including shipping. It is mint. 7/8 x 3 1/4.
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"I shall pass through this world but once, any good therefore that I can do or any kindness that I can show to any human being, let me do it now. Let me not deter or neglect it, for I shall not pass this way again" Stephen Grellet |
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Morgan Scoggins
From:
Georgia, USA
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Posted 28 Mar 2012 10:22 am
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Thanks Michael,
PM sent
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C. Brattain
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Balch Springs, Texas, usa
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Posted 1 Apr 2012 5:15 am
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| If I found away to remake the Red Rajah steel guitar would any one be interested, Chuck |
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James Hartman
From:
Pennsylvania, USA
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Posted 1 Apr 2012 6:16 am
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| C. Brattain wrote: |
| If I found away to remake the Red Rajah steel guitar would any one be interested, Chuck |
Just the Red Rajah? No Black P?
As you know, per our email exchange, I'm interested in the Black Phoenix. My understanding is the Red Rajah has a softer coating, correct? |
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C. Brattain
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Balch Springs, Texas, usa
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Posted 1 Apr 2012 12:23 pm
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| Sure, If I do the Red Rajah I can do the Black Phoenix also, your choice, Chuck |
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James Hartman
From:
Pennsylvania, USA
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Posted 1 Apr 2012 12:26 pm
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| C. Brattain wrote: |
| Sure, If I do the Red Rajah I can do the Black Phoenix also, your choice, Chuck |
Cool. I hope there's sufficient interest.  |
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Michael Nemick
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Caseville, Michigan, USA
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Posted 1 Apr 2012 3:47 pm
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Hey Chuck.
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"I shall pass through this world but once, any good therefore that I can do or any kindness that I can show to any human being, let me do it now. Let me not deter or neglect it, for I shall not pass this way again" Stephen Grellet |
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Morgan Scoggins
From:
Georgia, USA
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Posted 11 Apr 2012 12:52 pm
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Just to update everyone about the RR tone bar.I just received one today that Mike was kind enough to sell me. I gave it a good 2 hour workout on my 8 string nonpedal steel. I couldn't have been more pleased. The Bar is everything I had hoped for, nice and smooth on the strings but sticky to the grip.The first bar I bought a few years ago had some serious issues with the powder coating coming off. This bar had none. I guess whatever problems they had have been solved.
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