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Topic: question on intros? |
Wayne Quinn
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Posted 20 Mar 2012 11:56 am |
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| do most country intros start on a 5 cord or 4, or you just take it where ever you feel good with it.what's your thought. |
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Richard Sinkler
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Posted 20 Mar 2012 1:04 pm
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It depends on the song. They can start on 1, 4, 5, or any other like 2m etc. There is no standard rule there.
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Cal Sharp
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Posted 20 Mar 2012 2:22 pm
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You're usually safe playing that last 4 bars of the song for an intro. "Crazy Arms" for instance, play "And that's why I'm lonely all the time." 1511
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Justin Griffith
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Posted 20 Mar 2012 2:32 pm
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| Cal Sharp wrote: |
| You're usually safe playing that last 4 bars of the song for an intro. "Crazy Arms" for instance, play "And that's why I'm lonely all the time." 1511 |
Best advice I have seen in a while!
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Justin Griffith
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Taylor, Texas, USA
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Posted 20 Mar 2012 2:32 pm
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| Cal Sharp wrote: |
| You're usually safe playing that last 4 bars of the song for an intro. "Crazy Arms" for instance, play "And that's why I'm lonely all the time." 1511 |
Best advice I have seen in a while!
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Cal Sharp
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the farm in Kornfield Kounty, TN
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Justin Griffith
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Taylor, Texas, USA
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Posted 20 Mar 2012 2:43 pm
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I know that only too well!
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Bill Myrick
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Pea Ridge, Ar. (deceased)
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Posted 20 Mar 2012 2:54 pm
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----and hope you don't hear something like 4-5-1-2 -  |
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Bill Miller
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Gaspe, Quebec, Canada
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Posted 20 Mar 2012 3:51 pm
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When the drummer's counting off the song and everyone's looking at you, you gotta spring into action like Spiderman.
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Yep! And especially if it happens to be the first song of the night it can really give you the willies can't it? I try to stay relaxed and make myself have fun with it rather than get all tensed up and blow it. I don't chew them up so bad if I remember to have fun. Intros are way worse than solos. By the time the solo rolls around you've settled into the song. |
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Eric Davidson
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Kentucky, USA
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Posted 21 Mar 2012 9:06 am
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| Thanks for posting this. Let me preface my next comment/question by saying that i have only had my pedal steel for about a month now but Ive played non-pedal and guitar previously. My question is that when a song starts on 1, then are you generally playing on 1 as well or are you sometimes playing on the 5? I ask this because I was trying to figure out an intro to a song that was in G but I was on the 11th fret using the AB pedals. Hope that makes sense, again, i am very new at this. Thanks |
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chris ivey
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california (deceased)
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Posted 21 Mar 2012 9:34 am
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| eric...you were probably right...actually the tenth fret though...which is G with the pedals down..and the 5 (D) with no pedals. sounds like you're in the ballpark. |
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Cal Sharp
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the farm in Kornfield Kounty, TN
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Posted 21 Mar 2012 10:24 am
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| Richard Sinkler wrote: |
| It depends on the song. They can start on 1, 4, 5, or any other like 2m etc. There is no standard rule there. |
The "I've Got A New Heartache" intro starts on a 2m sometimes, depending on who you're playing it with. Usually when you're on a 5. Heck, if this were easy, anyone could do it.
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Bill Terry
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Posted 21 Mar 2012 11:53 am
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When I'm asked to do an intro I use Cal's method a lot; 'the last line of the chorus' is usually good, but with some bands I play with that seems 'too complicated'. Generally if the bass player and drummer know what to do, you can just do it with them and be sure you three are louder than everybody else  .
In those cases where the band is clueless, you can start a lot of country tunes with 1 5 1 1, and for some reason most guys can figure that one out. The key for me is to jump out there and play it, regardless of whatever train wreck is going on behind you. Builds character....
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Cal Sharp
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Posted 21 Mar 2012 12:21 pm
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I knew a band one time - that actually had a gig - and whoever was gonna sing the song played some kind of an intro on his instrument - guitar, bass or drums - and the others would come in at some point before or after he started singing. And, no, it wasn't the Cadillac Cowboys.
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Wayne Quinn
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Cape Breton.NovaScotia
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Posted 21 Mar 2012 12:44 pm
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| i guess what my question should have been is there a standard rule here. and thanks Richard for getting that across to me.and i must say thanks for all the in put from all you guys .it sure is good to get info from steel guitar players. cause you no where i'am comeing from.a guy that sings in a band that i do a bit of stuff with,does Cheating Hart in [ D ] i kick it of most times on the 10 fret D.I find it sounds better to me than kicking it of at the 16 fret with pedals down/? |
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Wayne Quinn
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Cape Breton.NovaScotia
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Posted 21 Mar 2012 12:54 pm
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| and Bill i know where your comeing from. i feel the same way i would rather play a solo in the song than do the D***M intro .at least until i guy gets warmed up and relaxed.and for me that's when the last set is in l.o.l. a lot of times when you do do the intro it's like every one in the band is looking at you wondering what the H**l your doing. |
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Richard Sinkler
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Posted 21 Mar 2012 1:12 pm
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| I knew a band one time - that actually had a gig - and whoever was gonna sing the song played some kind of an intro on his instrument - guitar, bass or drums - and the others would come in at some point before or after he started singing. And, no, it wasn't the Cadillac Cowboys. |
As the ole Roadhog would say, "that's a gooder".
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Henry Matthews
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Texarkana, Ark USA
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Posted 21 Mar 2012 1:17 pm
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| Cal Sharp wrote: |
| I knew a band one time - that actually had a gig - and whoever was gonna sing the song played some kind of an intro on his instrument - guitar, bass or drums - and the others would come in at some point before or after he started singing. And, no, it wasn't the Cadillac Cowboys. |
Funny Cal, I also know a band that all you have to do is name a song and four instruments start kicking it off at different times and sometimes in different keys. Makes them sound like there's more of them I guess.
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Donny Hinson
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Glen Burnie, Md. U.S.A.
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Posted 21 Mar 2012 2:37 pm
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Oops!
Last edited by Donny Hinson on 21 Mar 2012 2:44 pm; edited 1 time in total |
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Donny Hinson
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Glen Burnie, Md. U.S.A.
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Posted 21 Mar 2012 2:43 pm
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My favorite decade was the '60s, and I think more country hits of that decade started on the I chord than either the IV or V. I just looked at a "Top Country Hits" chart from the '60s, and that seems to be the case, but this might make an interesting rainy-day project to find out for sure!
It seems as though some artists (like Buck Owens, for instance) almost always started on the I chord. |
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Pete Burak
From:
Portland, OR USA
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Posted 21 Mar 2012 2:48 pm
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I usually just jot down a quick number system reference on the Set List.
I have no rule of thumb other than that's how the original version goes.
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4151 (pronounced "Forty one fiftey one"). |
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Wayne Quinn
From:
Cape Breton.NovaScotia
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Posted 21 Mar 2012 3:44 pm
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| That's a good one Pete/ really helps me lmao. |
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Bo Legg
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Posted 21 Mar 2012 3:50 pm
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| Don't worry about the count, for every song just hit a big fat loud 5 aug7 chord and sustain it. |
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chris ivey
From:
california (deceased)
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Posted 21 Mar 2012 5:59 pm
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| was it the California Cowboys? |
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Ray Anderson
From:
Jenkins, Kentucky USA
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Posted 22 Mar 2012 5:27 am
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| Hey Fellas, I like what Cal said about the Intro being the last 4 of the chorus. Would that be something that would be a rule of thumb in every song? That sure did turn on a light for me. Now if you would, explain a turn around and a rule or a good tip for doing one of those. |
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