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Topic: Anyone use a gauge 12 for the third sring on the E9 |
Earnest Bovine
From:
Los Angeles CA USA
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Posted 1 May 2002 9:58 pm |
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Mike, you seemed to say two contradictory things:
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| 24" scale keyed guitar has MORE string tension than a 25" keyless guitar {/quote]and[quote]The longer the string,the more tension is required to bring it up to a given pitch |
The second statement is true. The first one seems to say the opposite.
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Michael Johnstone
From:
Sylmar,Ca. USA
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Posted 2 May 2002 8:08 am
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| What I meant is that a 24" scale keyed guitar is really a 27" guitar(changer-to-tuner)and a 25" scale keyless guitar is really a 25&3/4" guitar(changer-to-tuner).So there is less tension on a 25&3/4" string tuned to G# than a 27+" string of the same guage tuned to G#. |
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C Dixon
From:
Duluth, GA USA
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Posted 2 May 2002 8:49 am
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Michael,
You are correct. A 24 and 1/4" scale keyless will have less breakage (everything else being equal) than a 24 and 1/4" keyed guitar.
The reason is, even though the nut to changer length is the SAME, the total length of pulled string is very different. Therefore, the tension is quite a bit more on the keyed than the keyless.
carl
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Kenny Forbess
From:
peckerwood point, w. tn.
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Posted 2 May 2002 9:30 am
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I had an old Maverick I used a 12 guage on one time, till I completely ran outta shells 
Actually, I do use 12 guage strings on my p/p Emmons and my Derby,
i like the tone better and they stay there longer.
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I love my Black 66 Bolt-on !
kp
[This message was edited by KENNY FORBESS on 02 May 2002 at 10:31 AM.] |
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compuserve
From:
ENGLAND
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Posted 2 May 2002 9:45 am
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| Thanks guys put a 12 on the third like it bought a dozen more .GOD BLESS JIM |
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Drew Grice
From:
New Bern, NC, 28562, USA
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Posted 3 May 2002 9:45 am
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| Jeff Newman switched me to 12 g. Like the tone better. As for breakage I rigged a little counter to the guitar for a while with both 11 and 12 strings. There is no appreciable difference in the # of bends befor breakage. They both break between 950 and 975 bends. Did this on an Emmons LII, D-10 |
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bill dearmore
From:
Belton,Tx.,USA
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Posted 3 May 2002 11:07 pm
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| I believe the only thing that has not been addressed in this thread is cabnet drop- more tension,more cabnet drop. Ugh! |
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Doug Seymour
From:
Jamestown NY USA (deceased)
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Posted 4 May 2002 4:25 am
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I like Kenny's post best of all! "A 12 gauge
on a Maverick til I ran out of shells!" OOOO!
that's a good one! Should be about the best thing I can think of for a Maverick! Sorry,
guys. I take that back, they do get you started & hooked on having pedals, so thay can't be all bad! OK, how many were made over the years? The Carter starter is today's
greatest pedal for beginners isn't it? & in today's dollars it may be no more expensive than the Maverick was in it's day & the Carter will certainly get you farther down the road if you are thinking E9th. 4 knees?
How can you beat that! |
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Brian Herder
From:
Philadelphia, Pa. USA
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Posted 4 May 2002 6:23 am
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| A few years ago, Ricky Davis suggested I try a .012 on the third, and a .024w on the sixth. The sound is fat and even, and I have only broken the third, maybe 3 times since. The guitar is an 70s Pro ll...and I am way too cheap to change strings on any sort of a regular basis. |
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Don Townsend
From:
Turner Valley, Alberta Canada
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Posted 4 May 2002 8:44 am
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A whole new research topic for Bill!!! 
Would a thicker string require a "Lucky 8"?[This message was edited by Don Townsend on 04 May 2002 at 09:46 AM.] |
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jim milewski
From:
stowe, vermont
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Posted 9 May 2002 3:44 pm
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| I just started using a .012 and now a .015 on the 4th, fatter sound |
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