| Author |
Topic: Feedback and Resonator Guitars |
Nick A Reed
From:
Georgia, USA
|
Posted 5 Mar 2012 12:45 pm |
|
Any tips on cutting the feedback when using a resonator live?
I'm using a passive K and K with the Jerry Douglas Aura pedal, but I still get loads of feedback when playing with a full band. I pretty much have to cut out all the bass in the eq.
Didn't know if anyone has been able to tackle the issue.
Best,
Nick |
|
|
 |
Dave Thier
From:
Fairhope, Alabama, USA
|
|
|
|
Webb Kline
From:
Orangeville, PA
|
Posted 5 Mar 2012 1:10 pm
|
|
I have the Fishman pup that is recommended for use with the Douglas/Aura system. I had it installed by Beard, which I must say made a huge difference over the self installation I did on my other reso.
I still had a bit of problem ocassionally, but most of it was solved by selecting the right mic model on the Douglas preamp. While there are a few that work better than others, I do have to change it from venue to venue, and even sometimes during the same performance if the crowd size alters room acoustics.
The biggest difference for me was when I bought my Dean Markely Ultrasound DS4 amp. The on board notch filter was a good selling point, but the amp has worked out so well that I never even need to use the filter. If I need more volume I run a line or mic it, but it is surprisingly loud as it is and great tone.
On large gigs, I use in-ear monitors and run the Aura direct to the PA and then there are no feedback issues whatsoever.
Last edited by Webb Kline on 6 Mar 2012 9:57 am; edited 1 time in total |
|
|
|
Howard Parker
From:
Maryland
|
Posted 6 Mar 2012 6:42 am
|
|
The Aura pedal is designed to be used with the Douglas bridge pickup. It is that pickup which greatly minimizes feedback potential.
Expensive...Yes! But, it is the cat's meow!
h
_________________
Howard Parker
03\' Carter D-10
70\'s Dekley D-10
52\' Fender Custom
Many guitars by Paul Beard
Listowner Resoguit-L |
|
|
|
Herb Steiner
From:
Briarcliff TX 78669, pop. 2,064
|
Posted 6 Mar 2012 8:40 am
|
|
| Howard Parker wrote: |
The Aura pedal is designed to be used with the Douglas bridge pickup. It is that pickup which greatly minimizes feedback potential.
Expensive...Yes! But, it is the cat's meow!
h |
I agree with Howard. I own 2 Gold Tone resos with Fishman pickups and use them with an Aura pedal.
Still, feedback control depends on your amplification and stage positioning. While on the Michael Martin Murphey Cowboy Christmas tour of 2008, I was primarily using stage amplifiers for half the tour and still had to be careful with my position vis a' vis the amp, and definitely no turning towards the amp!
I was in constant communication with Cindy Cashdollar to swap notes on how to get the best sound, what Aura sample to use, amp placement, et al. and she was very helpful, especially in the final solution to the problem.
The final solution was simply this: I ran the signal from the Aura directly into the PA system and got a discreet feed from the board to my stage monitor. This completely removed the feedback and I could hear myself on a huge stage with the rest of the band in balance by virtue of the close by monitors of the other players.
So, run the signal through the PA and get your own monitor.
The Aura with Fishman pickup provides the most realistic amplified reso sound available. Expensive and most definitely worth it.
_________________
My rig: Infinity and Telonics.
Son, we live in a world with walls, and those walls have to be guarded by men with steel guitars. Who's gonna do it? You? You, Lt. Weinberg? |
|
|
|
Bob Haglock
From:
St. Clairsville ,Ohio, USA
|
Posted 9 Mar 2012 8:28 am feedback
|
|
| Hi all, saw this thread after I posted this in another and thought I'd throw this out to see what you thought. I just started playing in a southern country/rock band. They play much louder than I normally play. I'm playing a 95 dobro with a fishman pick-up on the cone that Tim Scheerhorn installed. I'm also playing a D-10 MSA. Both go into a line selector pedal then to a Peavey Tubefex, then to my Peavey session 400. My only problem is when I'm on the dobro and have to crank it up , I'm getting the dreaded squeal. I've just set the dobro to a tube effects setting and selected a 5 band eq in it hoping it will help. Any of you ever used this set-up? You all have definitely given me some food for thought so far. I'll check out this aura pedal. Thanks, Bob. |
|
|
|
Will Hart
From:
St. Croix, Virgin Islands
|
Posted 9 Mar 2012 1:04 pm
|
|
I play in a fairly loud all electric country band and have tried everything including a feedback destroyer. My dobro seems especially sensitive to the lows the bass produces but general stage volume is also a nemesis.
The final solution for me has been the Beard Road-O-Phonic. |
|
|
|
Bob Haglock
From:
St. Clairsville ,Ohio, USA
|
Posted 9 Mar 2012 3:47 pm feedback
|
|
| Thanks Will. I checked it out. That would definitely be an option. Thanks for your reply. Greatly appreciated. |
|
|
|
Steve Lipsey
From:
Portland, Oregon, USA
|
Posted 9 Mar 2012 7:16 pm
|
|
the notch filter is a necessity (I use LRBaggs DI).....a cone is designed to project the sound....which means it also collects the sound. Thus, feedback...at whatever the resonant frequency is of the system and tuning...
I also put tape over most of the holes in the cone cover to cut down on the sound - that helps a bit. sort of like a sound hole plug on a normal guitar. you don't need a lot of acoustic sound coming out...
and pointing away from any speaker will help....
_________________
https://www.lostsailorspdx.com
Williams S10s, Milkman Pedal Steel Mini & "The Amp"
Ben Bonham Resos, 1954 Oahu Diana, 1936 Oahu Parlor |
|
|
|
Clyde Mattocks
From:
Kinston, North Carolina, USA
|
Posted 9 Mar 2012 7:41 pm
|
|
I have fought this battle for many years. Once the drums and electric bass get going, they are setting off your cone vibration more than you can. No relief in sight.
_________________
LeGrande II, Nash. 112, Fender Twin Tone Master, Session 400, Harlow Dobro, R.Q.Jones Dobro |
|
|
|
