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Topic: $18,000 Sho-Bud-Red Rhodes |
Todd Brown
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W. Columbia , South Carolina
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Ben Elder
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La Crescenta, California, USA
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Posted 24 Feb 2012 10:29 pm |
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If Red played it with Michael Nesmith & the First National Band (around the same time, I'd imagine), I support the asking price. Easy for me to say, as many years as it takes me to earn $8K.
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David Higginbotham
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Lake Charles, Louisiana, USA
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Posted 25 Feb 2012 3:25 am
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These people pop up ever so often hoping to make big bucks off of junk! I'm sure James Taylor remembers that steel used on a session 40 years ago!!! 
Did you read the seller's other items? He also has a 3000 year old rock and a Jimmy Buffet "official" tour jacket.  |
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Rick Abbott
From:
Indiana, USA
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Posted 25 Feb 2012 6:27 am
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It's funny how my 1966 Crossover prototype, or very low production version, is SN 7035. His would be 23" scale too...and are those "dustcatchers?" Just sayin' Bobbe Seymour and John Coop both told me the very, very earliest Crossover would have been made in the fall of 1966, production started in 1967 for the Baldwin folks.
I am not commenting on the other aspects of his story, just the date.And that the freboards are not original either and are 24". The first 20 or so Crossovers were 23".
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Remington T-8, Sehy #112
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Herb Steiner
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Briarcliff TX 78669, pop. 2,064
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Posted 25 Feb 2012 7:07 am
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Dreams of a dreamer...
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Son, we live in a world with walls, and those walls have to be guarded by men with steel guitars. Who's gonna do it? You? You, Lt. Weinberg? |
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Kevin Hatton
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Buffalo, N.Y.
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Posted 25 Feb 2012 7:47 am
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 !8 You can put it in the window and put Christmas lights on it! I wanna see this. |
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Skip Edwards
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LA,CA
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Posted 25 Feb 2012 9:28 am
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Here's a question for those of us who knew Red - myself included...
Did you ever know Red to play a Sho-Bud?
For all the years I knew him he played a Fender, then a Sierra, and then briefly an MCI. And most, if not all of them were single necks. |
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Herb Steiner
From:
Briarcliff TX 78669, pop. 2,064
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Posted 25 Feb 2012 10:59 am
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In 1966 Red was playing an 11-string ZB Custom, pre-Brumley era. He sold the guitar to Paycheck (who never paid him for it), who subsequently pawned it in San Diego in 1969. I saw it in the pawn shop there and told Red about it.
I still have the letter Red sent me in 1966 with his tuning and pedal setup. 
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Son, we live in a world with walls, and those walls have to be guarded by men with steel guitars. Who's gonna do it? You? You, Lt. Weinberg? |
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Ken Byng
From:
Southampton, England
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Posted 25 Feb 2012 12:26 pm
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Red must have been an aggressive pick blocker judging from the state of the fretboard on that 'Bud. (I think not)
A green ZB keyless came into the UK via Eric Snowball the UK ZB importer around 73/74, and he told me that it belonged to Red. It had a diatonic tuning on it. The only keyless ZB I've ever seen, although Tom Brumley had 2 keyless strings on his E9 neck when he visited the UK in the mid 70's.
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Show Pro D10 - amber (8+6), MSA D10 Legend XL Signature - redburst (9+6), Sho-Bud Pro 111 Custom (8+6), Emmons black Push-Pull D10 (8+5), Zum D10 (8x8), Hudson pedal resonator. Telonics TCA-500, Webb 614-E, |
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Bob Blair
From:
Edmonton, Alberta, Canada
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Posted 25 Feb 2012 12:51 pm
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| Man, if this one will fetch 18k, imagine what the ZB that Paycheck stiffed Red for would bring - bizzillions! |
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Kevin Hatton
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Buffalo, N.Y.
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Posted 25 Feb 2012 1:20 pm
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Thats true about that green ZB keyless. there are Youtube videos of him using it. Great story. Now which one of you is going to pay the $18000 for that Crossover used at Queen Elizabeth's wedding? Put wheels on it and you can use it as a garden wagon. I've got Prince Albert in a can!
Ebay, here I come!!! |
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Herb Steiner
From:
Briarcliff TX 78669, pop. 2,064
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Posted 25 Feb 2012 2:26 pm
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If that guitar was keyless, the keyless part of the ZB was of Red's own design. It was originally a keyed guitar if my memory is correct.
Red also designed the keyless mechanism that he put in his Fender 800, a picture of which is on the jacket of his Countryside "Velvet Hammer" album, produced by Nesmith.
If you remember, David Jackson built a short keyless Sho-Bud for Hal Rugg, a picture of which is in Winston/Keith. According to Red, his patent on the keyless mechanism was what prevented Sho-Bud from coming out with their own keyless design. Red was kinda proud about that.
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Larry Robbins
From:
Fort Edward, New York
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Posted 25 Feb 2012 2:31 pm
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Herb,
You could write a book. I hope you do
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Brian Herder
From:
Philadelphia, Pa. USA
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Posted 25 Feb 2012 2:36 pm
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| That video with Bert Jansch, Mike Nesmith and Red is really cool.. it's interesting that Red is wearing those pointy Ernie Ball finger picks in that. Mike Nesmith did a good thing filming that. A real slice of life, that one is. |
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Dave Grafe
From:
Hudson River Valley NY
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Posted 25 Feb 2012 3:34 pm
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| Considering the seller represents himself as knowing Red personally one would hope that he eventually learned to spell his name correctly...but hey it's eBay, what do you expect? |
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Jack Aldrich
From:
Washington, USA
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Posted 25 Feb 2012 4:00 pm
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| Ben Elder wrote: |
| If Red played it with Michael Nesmith & the First National Band (around the same time, I'd imagine), I support the asking price. Easy for me to say, as many years as it takes me to earn $8K. |
When Red played with Nesmith at McCabes back in the late 60's, he used a left handed Fender 1000 that he had rigged to be right handed. It didn;t look pretty. He told me that no other steel he had had as good a tone as that one. Later, in 1976, I bought my wood neck ShoBud S10 3/4 from Red, another story. It was wonderful, but I traded it in 1987 for a Pro III 8/4 to get a C6 neck. IMHO the sound of a wood neck ShoBud is delicious. |
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I don't care whose it was. Ain't no Crossover worth 18 grand!
