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Todd Brown
From: W. Columbia , South Carolina
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Posted 13 Feb 2012 4:16 pm
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I just put the 4th string raise -E to F#- on pedal 4 on my ShoBud. Any examples of licks using this change, or any tab showing how to use this? Just the 4th string raise, alone?? I know it's all over Waylons records, I just can't seem to get it.... |
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Brett Robinson
From: Nashville, TN
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Posted 13 Feb 2012 4:30 pm Mooney
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Todd,
I have that change on my 8th pedal, makes it easy to use two feet. I can shoot you an email later on how I use it. Here's a taste: I'll call the pedal "M"
In D:
3|-5B--5B----5B-5B-------------
4|-5---5------5M~5--5----5-----
5|-5A--5A----5A-5A--5~A-5------
6|---------5B-----------------5B
I don't have to move to the C pedal for that quick raise.. _________________ www.facebook.com/brettrobinsonmusic
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Brett Robinson
From: Nashville, TN
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Todd Brown
From: W. Columbia , South Carolina
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Posted 13 Feb 2012 9:36 pm
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Brett, thanks so much! Yeah, I see what your saying about it being on the 8th pedal, closer to the volume. I'll work it out... |
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Greg Cutshaw
From: Corry, PA, USA
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Posted 14 Feb 2012 6:21 am
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It takes two feet to get an authentic Mooney sound. Even when slowed down, you can hear how incredibly fast he comes on and off the 4th string whole tone raise. Hard to do as crisply just by rocking your ankle on and off two pedals with one foot.
Here's a neat Mooney riff using open strings (See "Tab517 - A Little Ralph Mooney):
http://www.gregcutshaw.com/Tab/Tab11.html
Listen to how fast Moon pegs the A pedal on this riff ("Ralph Mooney's Intro to Buck Owen's "The House Down The Street - E9th"):
http://gregcutshaw.com/Tab/Tab20.html
Full song audio:
Buck Owens House Down The Block
Greg |
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Desmond Johnson
From: Goose Creek, SC 29445
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Posted 18 Feb 2012 9:43 am
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Mooney was using a Fender with short pedal travel that produced that whip on the 4th string F# raise. Jeff Newman got it on a Fender 400 in his course. _________________ Desmond Johnson |
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Cody Angel
From: Nashville, Tn
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Posted 29 Oct 2012 6:58 am
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I put that change on my left knee right lever and I love it! I use it in combination with my 1st string whole tone raise to get a from G# to E in open position with only 1 pick in between as well as smooth 4 chord to 2minor changes, |
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Keith Hilton
From: 248 Laurel Road Ozark, Missouri 65721
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Posted 29 Oct 2012 4:47 pm
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I love Ralph Mooney on the early Buck Owens and Wynn Stewart recordings. I ask Ralph why he had not played the Bucky Owens, Wynn Stewart style steel with Wylon Jennings. Ralph had a simple answer for me, Ralph said; "It would not have worked". I am sure some younger players do not understand that the style Mooney used with Waylon was totally different than what he used with Buck Owens. The E to F# is not the only Mooney change. You also need the 3rd string lower from G# to G. My opinion is-- none of this can be done with a knee lever, unless your knee is faster than most human's. The changes need to be on a foot pedal to be quick enough movement. |
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John Castelletti
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Posted 31 Oct 2012 7:11 am
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HI Keith as a big Mooney fan and a relative new guy to pedal steel can you point out some of his licks that utilize that G# to G change? |
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Keith Hilton
From: 248 Laurel Road Ozark, Missouri 65721
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Posted 31 Oct 2012 6:30 pm
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John, it is a off and on quick thing. Just pump the pedal quickly. In the open position, no pedals or knees--lowering the 3rd string 1/2 fret creates the minor. So you are alternating quickly between the minor and the major. Makes it interesting for the listener. It will not fit every song. It creates a kind of nasty 7th sound. It needs to be used in songs like, "Merle Haggard's: The Bottle Let Me Down. You can not use it in a song like Buck Owen's "Togethr Again" It would sound goofy in that context. |
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John Castelletti
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Posted 31 Oct 2012 8:18 pm
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Thanks Keith. Immediately after I posted i had a *duh* moment and went to the steel and played around with bar slants and found a bunch of Mooney-isms. It's a change I wish I had but not sure if or what I'd give up to get it. |
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Keith Hilton
From: 248 Laurel Road Ozark, Missouri 65721
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Posted 31 Oct 2012 8:41 pm
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I have a GFI with 5 pedals and 5 knees I may dedicate to the Ralph Mooney setup.
On my other guitars I have 5 pedals on the E9th neck. I call two of them my Mooney pedals, pedals 4 and 5. Pedal 4 raises string 6 a half tone, and lowers string 3 a half tone. Pedal 5 only raises string 4 a half tone. Remember, Ralph Mooney is a style of playing. It is not Lloyd Green and it is not Buddy Emmons, it is Ralph Mooney. It WILL turn heads. |
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