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Chris Tweed


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Cardiff, Wales, UK
Post  Posted 26 Jan 2012 12:24 pm    
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I'm about to accompany an acoustic guitarist/singer on PSG in a live radio broadcast. I'm a bit concerned about the noise the pedals will make that could be picked up by the singer's mic.

I imagine I will have to position the guitar and myself as far away from the broadcast mic as possible, and place the amp closer to it. Has anyone come across this problem and could advise on how to overcome it? Or is it a non-issue?

Chris
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Bob Fraser

 

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Saskatchewan, Canada
Post  Posted 26 Jan 2012 1:17 pm    
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Most radio studios use cardioid mics, (unidirectional). So for best pedal noise reduction try to position your instrument so that the BACK of the vocal mic is pointing at it. In other words you and the vocalist would be facing each other.

That way you will make the most of the rear-rejection of the cardioid pattern that is on the vocal and probably also the guitar.

Also, if the studio is not carpeted, put your instrument on a carpet so as to not bounce pedal/foot noise off the hard floor.

bob
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Lane Gray


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Topeka, KS
Post  Posted 26 Jan 2012 2:53 pm    
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Unless you play a push-pull with lots of slack or a rack and barrel, it'll be a non-issue, especially if you stay on the back side of the singer's mic
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Roger Rettig


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Naples, FL
Post  Posted 26 Jan 2012 4:39 pm    
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I had three ZBs way back when, and peripheral noise from their undercarriages was very often an issue in the studio! Aside from those guitars, though, I've had no problem.
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Bent Romnes


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London,Ontario, Canada
Post  Posted 26 Jan 2012 6:32 pm    
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I build my steels with studio noise in mind.
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Lonnie Portwood


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Jacksonville, fl. USA
Post  Posted 26 Jan 2012 7:43 pm    
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Not to be a smart "butt", but if you owned a "Fulawka", you would never worry about such things, Also, when you touch a pedal, a string starts moving. Otherwise, these guys are right about the mike placement. Good luck with the session. Lonnie
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Bob Hoffnar


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Austin, Tx
Post  Posted 26 Jan 2012 11:03 pm    
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If your steel is particularly squeeky you can hit the points where it rubs with teflon paste. If your steel is way to clanky you can try putting foam rubber between the parts that clank.

I gotta say though that I have done hundreds of those live radio things and I've never had a problem with a noisy steel.
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Johan Jansen


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Post  Posted 27 Jan 2012 10:41 am    
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Put a kind of drum-screen around your steelguitar. Not that high that you lose contact with the singer.
Mic the amp from another room and hear in back through the headphone, in a mix with the others.
Will do the job, as long as you are used playing with a headphone...

JJ
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