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Tony Williamson

 

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Post  Posted 21 Jan 2012 11:41 am    
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well, you all know im a banjo picker. been one all my life. the steel guitar makes the most beautiful music in the world. i play one, barely. but i do know, without a shadow of a doubt. that i DO NOT LIKE todays country music. most of it really sucks. why and how these guys make a truckload of money off such crap i cant comprehend. i have some steel guitar cd's, great stuff. i definately want to go in some other direction than play in a country / top 40 for cover stuff. how mundane....
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Tony Williamson

 

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North Carolina, USA
Post  Posted 21 Jan 2012 11:43 am    
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p.s. i am not belittling anyone on the steel, but i think some of you know the kind of stuff i mean. music for the cash register...stuff like look at us with the great John Hughey makes me cry.
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Mike Moffitt

 

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South Carolina
Post  Posted 21 Jan 2012 12:14 pm     Country Music
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I agree with you about todays so called country music.With the exception of a very,very few songs the "Cash Register Country"music SUCKS--
I have been playing traditional country music since I was 14,and will lay even money that the greats of country are either spinning in their graves,or crying for the loss of real meaning and love of the music.
I am in South Carolina,and have found it harder to find any real country here than I ever would have imagined.
Sad state of affairs.
Keep it PURE COUNTRY MY NEW FRIEND
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Ben Rubright

 

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Punta Gorda, Florida, USA
Post  Posted 21 Jan 2012 1:07 pm    
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Even though I agree in principle, it worries me that great steel players, like Paul Franklin, who work in this arena get a bum rap. In my opinion, the 'music' rots BUT the musicianship DOES NOT! We should never forget this!!!!!!!

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Ben Rubright

 

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Punta Gorda, Florida, USA
Post  Posted 21 Jan 2012 1:15 pm    
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I prefer to hear Paul play at the Texas Steel Guitar Jamboree, Scotty's Steel Guitar Convention, or with the Time Jumpers at the Station Inn. Hope to see y'all at one or all of the above.
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Gil Berry

 

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Westminster, CA, USA
Post  Posted 21 Jan 2012 5:16 pm    
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Pick just about any instrument and a master at playing it can excite the soul of another musician....ok, I'm not too sure about bagpipes.....but with a very few exceptions like Kenny G, Chet, Floyd Cramer and a few others, instrumental music just doesn't sell. Pop music, with a "singer" -whether they can hit one note on key or not - is the music making money (I'll even include Rap in this category although "rap music" is certainly an oxymoron). So you can't blame the music industry for publishing junk. They couldn't care less...they publish whatever sells. So we'll just have to be content with grabbing every instrumental steel guitar album we can from Bob and hope someone, somehow, someway, may be able to transfer some of those old, great steel albums from LPs and tape to CD. Let the yoyos get drunk listening to junk country, or rap, or whatever...we'll just have to be satisfied knowing a great steel guitar instrumental is so much better than all that junk we can only feel sorry for those who can't appreciate what REAL music is.
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Mike Moffitt

 

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Post  Posted 21 Jan 2012 6:53 pm     Country Music
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BEN YOUR POINT IS WELL MADE,AND I AGREE,YET FROM A PERSONAL SIDE --MY OWN-I COULD NOT,AND WOULD NOT LOWER MYSELF TO THE POINT OF PUTTING THE DOLLAR ABOVE MY SELF-RESPECT.
ONE OF THE SONGS OUT THERE SAYS SOMETHING ABOUT HAVING TO STAND FOR SOMETHING,OR YOU COULD FALL FOR ANYTHING,,WELL I FOR ONE WILL STAND TALL AND PROUD FOR THE MUSIC,AND MUSICIANS THAT PAVED THE WAY FOR THE GUYS OUT THERE NOW.
AS FOR PEDAL STEEL,LONG LIVE THE LIKES OF DON HELMS,RALPH MOONEY,JIMMY DAY.SPEEDY WEST,ALONG WITH TOO MANY TO NAME,THEY SET A STANDARD THAT SOME OF TODAYS PLAYERS STILL RESPECT,WHILE OTHERS COULD CARE LESS.
JUST MY THOUGHTS.
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George McCann

 

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Maui, USA
Post  Posted 21 Jan 2012 6:58 pm    
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I'm old and remember way back when rock n roll came around in the 50's and everyone who wasn't a young whippersnapper, which I happened to be, decried the downfall of civilization. Country preachers were upset, guess that isn't unusual now that I think on it, jazz musicians were outraged at these young punks drivin cadillacs while the girls swooned at their feet. Life was tough for everyone older than us. Now that the shoe doesn't fit anymore I'm as upset as everyone else. But we do have what is refered to as americana music, our folk, our country, our old time rock n roll be'in done by some of the younger generation.Granted it is their spin on our style of music but all isn't lost.
A new Canadian friend just sent me a U-tube about a Canadian old timer doing old country style stuff by Irwin Prescott and I was lost in his interpretasion of old country standards. Sigh... Life does go on and I get to watch my old team back in the playoffs for the first time in a long time tomorrow, so I'll probably survive, if they win....
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Leslie Ehrlich


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Saskatoon, Saskatchewan, Canada
Post  Posted 22 Jan 2012 12:44 am     Re: country music
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Tony Williamson wrote:
I DO NOT LIKE today's country music. Most of it really sucks.


Then don't listen to it.
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Norman Boling

 

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Paragould Arkansas, Philadelphia TN USA
Post  Posted 22 Jan 2012 3:53 am     Yep, I can see the future now
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85 year old tattooed men and women "rappin" to the oldies...
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Tony Williamson

 

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North Carolina, USA
Post  Posted 22 Jan 2012 6:19 am    
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this only came up because i went and played guitar with a country band the other night. i thought i would join them on steel as a new member, they were itchin to have a steel, but guys , i dont think i can do it. the next tune couldnt be over fast enough. now i know to a lot of folks bluegrass sounds the same, and alot of folks dont like jazzy stuff on a banjo, i guess i'll just play with the boys on my korg d3200, me,me,me,me,and me...and be satisfied..lol. i have a bootleg steel cd with lonesome 77203 on it and it makes my hair stand up. anybody know who was playing that?
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Tony Williamson

 

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North Carolina, USA
Post  Posted 22 Jan 2012 6:22 am    
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i was playing look at us the other night. it is hard to squeeze the emotion out like john did. i cant do it... Crying or Very sad
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Carson Leighton


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N.B. Canada
Post  Posted 22 Jan 2012 6:33 am     Lonesome 77203
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Tony,,If I remember correctly,,Bob Lucier who used to play on the Tommy Hunter Show, had that song out as an instrumental a few years ago... I think Bob is still playing..I have an old vinyl album of him and Shot Jackson..Cheers,,,Carson

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Ken Metcalf


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San Antonio Texas USA
Post  Posted 22 Jan 2012 6:49 am     Re: country music
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I think they said the same stuff about Hank Williams Sr. when he was topping the charts.
Each time a shift happens the old guard holds on.
20 - 30 years from now the youngsters of today will be saying the same thing about the space age country of 2042.
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Dave Hopping


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Aurora, Colorado
Post  Posted 22 Jan 2012 10:04 am    
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If you're a pro,it's mostly about the audience's taste,rather than yours.Sometimes you get lucky and the crowd likes something you show them,but that's largely a matter of happenstance.He who pays the piper,et cetera.

Since we're all players here,we can,do,and should make observations about how no one ever went broke underestimating the taste of the American public,and how quality is no bar to the utter failure of any particular product,be it Tucker automobiles,Messerschmitt jets,Microfrets guitars,or all those bands we love but no one else ever heard of.
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Ben Godard

 

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Jamesville NC
Post  Posted 22 Jan 2012 11:04 am    
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I agree that country music sucks for the most part today. There are a few that are OK.

I've stated in the past that country music isn't just music. It is way of living. Its how you talk, how you dress, how you carry yourself. It's about family and the simple things that matter. It's about the life and times of a hardworkin man trying to make a living and trying to get to heaven.

I actually despise most of the music that is coming out today and I'm not old so don't tell me to get with the times. I'm 38 years old and well adapted to the times but I still know the difference between real country and the stuff coming out today.

Just look at how the musicians dress compared to in the 80's and 90's. Look at Jason Aldean and his f.<?'! earings. Oh yeah, those earing sure scream country don't they. I think there has been a trend that the industry today thinks country has to be a cool bad ass image and is one big cool party. Well thats all well and good. All the greats like Haggard and Jones and Hank SR and JR have definately partied their tail off....but they were still true to their country roots.

Its not just the singers and musicians either. It the cooporate level too. The country music executives promote what makes the most money and that happens to be centered around listeners between the ages of 14 to 32 which is the party crowd. They are the ones who are buying most of the music. It's just a shame that the young generation of today don't appreciate traditional country music.

Another thing, what happened to CMT? Has anyone seen the latest awards shows. It's just sickening. CMT is just another MTV. And also what happened to TNN. I miss the Opry and Nashville Now and other programs.

I know I'll get toasted for making certain comments but I'm just telling it like it is. Anyway, thank God for tapes,CD's and now MP3 players. That my lifeline
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Lane Gray


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Topeka, KS
Post  Posted 22 Jan 2012 12:03 pm    
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Tony, check out Justin Trevino, Amber Digby, Heather Myles or even Brad Paisley, Vince Gill and Patty Loveless and Martina McBride.
not all the new stuff is crossover crap.
But crossover has been outselling traditional country since 1924 and Vernon Dalhart.
But there has been pushback the entire time.
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Theresa Galbraith

 

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Goodlettsville,Tn. USA
Post  Posted 22 Jan 2012 12:09 pm    
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I don't care how a musician dresses. Musicianship is bottom line. Sucks, really?
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Kevin Hatton

 

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Buffalo, N.Y.
Post  Posted 22 Jan 2012 12:18 pm    
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Believe me, 23 year old women CARE about how a musician dresses and looks. Music is secondary. Show business is about sex appeal, period. Hank Snow, Elvis, Buck Owens,Dolly, and The Beatles all new this. Other successful stage acts also. Grab their eyes and their ears will follow. Ben, you are right on about country.

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Lane Gray


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Topeka, KS
Post  Posted 22 Jan 2012 12:20 pm    
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Indeed. That's why Hank Snow had the sexiest toupeƩ $29.95 could buy.
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Jerry Kippola


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UP Michigan, USA
Post  Posted 22 Jan 2012 12:24 pm    
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Who gives a rat's ass if most of it sucks, just play the good stuff, lofl
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Kevin Hatton

 

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Buffalo, N.Y.
Post  Posted 22 Jan 2012 12:24 pm    
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He also had $5000.00 rhinestone outfits that people would pay to see.
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Tony Williamson

 

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North Carolina, USA
Post  Posted 22 Jan 2012 12:40 pm    
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i love vince,patty, the whites, brad paisley is a hot picker, and i really like microfret guitars, didnt they have the fret right in front of the nut? or something was different or offset about it. im only semi pro, i dont depend on music for a living, but ive made a little extra. and yall are right, if you dont play what they like, you may not go back. but the boys on the recorder dont argue with me.lol.
actually, i try to play each instrument differently, but since its coming out of the same brain, things unexpectedly fall right into place quite nicely sometimes. i got a nice webcam for christmas, i'll try to put you guys a banjo tune on youtube soon. maybe something simple on steel in a couple months.
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Lee Baucum


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McAllen, Texas (Extreme South) The Final Frontier
Post  Posted 22 Jan 2012 12:42 pm    
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Perhaps this rant belongs over in the MUSIC section of the Forum...
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Tony Williamson

 

From:
North Carolina, USA
Post  Posted 22 Jan 2012 12:54 pm    
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Guys, one more thing , i'm brain dead. what does ttt and bump mean ?
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