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Jerome Hawkes


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Post  Posted 20 Jan 2012 7:00 am    
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i've noticed most prewar lap steels had the tone control on the players side (under the wrist) - my question relates to how in the world Jerry Byrd and others used the wah effect when it was on the "wrong" side to easily grab it - but both the Rics Byrd used had the tone on the player side and he certainly used it to full effect.

the reason i ask is i've been looking at B6's - various years had either no tone, tone on top, tone next to volume.
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Mike Neer


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Post  Posted 20 Jan 2012 7:12 am    
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I don't have an answer, but I remember a funny thing about Danny Gatton--he placed a little rubber finger puppet with extended arms on his tone control so he could easily do the doo-wah effect. I can't remember where I saw it--maybe his first Licks and tricks video, but I haven't seen any pics of it since. It always cracked me up.
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Erv Niehaus


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Post  Posted 20 Jan 2012 8:00 am    
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When you think about it, placing the tone control on the far side of the guitar is the logical place to put it if you want to do the wah-wah effect. It's more accessible to your picking hand and little finger.
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Ray Montee


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Portland, Oregon (deceased)
Post  Posted 20 Jan 2012 10:18 am     About those pesky TONE Control knobs...............
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Did ANYONE ever see Jerry Byrd use his 'little pinky' finger to rotate the TONE CONTROL on his Ric?

Are you certain he didn't use the heel of his right hand to smoothly rotate that control as opposed to using a 'pinky finger'?

Really curious about this item............
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Jerome Hawkes


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Fayetteville, North Carolina, USA
Post  Posted 20 Jan 2012 10:33 am    
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Ray, thats what i'm talking about - I think Erv misunderstood my meaning of the tone control on the players side with his post of the JB console (sweet guitar, btw) - i'm referring to the tone control like you see on many 30's laps thats on the OPPOSITE side of the volume, which makes me wonder how JB (and others) used that wah effect so "effectively".

You have several of these, so maybe you are correct with the heel of the hand and not the pinky theory.
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Erv Niehaus


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Post  Posted 20 Jan 2012 11:31 am    
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Jerome,
That Rickenbacker that I posted was Jerry's favorite instrument.
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Ray Montee


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Post  Posted 20 Jan 2012 8:49 pm     The last thing I'd ever want to do is cause a ruckus here...
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JERRY BYRD told me personally that his all time favorite guitar was his 7-string Rick, Bakelite lap steel coupled to his Volu-Tone amp.

He stated that "those two items represented the most significant milestone in his musical career, that together, they produced the most beautiful and as yet, unmatched tone of any guitar he'd ever heard."
He went on to tell me that he'd give almost anything to get the two units back in his hands to play once again.

Now, that's what JERRY BYRD told me during the last couple eyars of his life.
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Erv Niehaus


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Post  Posted 21 Jan 2012 8:34 am    
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Ray Montee


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Portland, Oregon (deceased)
Post  Posted 21 Jan 2012 10:36 am     About tthose guitars..............
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ERV.........You're right that JERRY played the life out of that guitar for a long period of time. He made beautiful music with it.
I acquired one of those a couple of years back and find it to be an excellent instrument. It's easy to play and a nice looking guitar. Mine happens to be dark wood finish, like the 1950's FENDERS, but it still plays great even tho' it's not a Black Mica.
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Todd Clinesmith


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Post  Posted 21 Jan 2012 11:06 am    
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When were those Jerry Byrd models made ?? Mid 50's ?
I think Jerome is refering to earlier recordings, before Jerry was playing this guitar Erv is refering to.
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Michael Lee Allen

 

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Post  Posted 21 Jan 2012 12:41 pm    
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Erv Niehaus


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Post  Posted 22 Jan 2012 6:41 am    
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I've even seen the upholstery in the front in different colors.
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Ray Montee


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Post  Posted 22 Jan 2012 12:36 pm     About the upholstry.......
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Mine is BLUE!...........
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