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Topic: Playing Emmons and Sho Bud |
Ariel Lobos
From:
Buenos Aires, Argentina
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Posted 3 Jan 2012 6:42 pm |
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Hi, I played a Sho Bud Professional for six years and now im in the Emmons Push pull also, i Have to push harder with my knees and foot in the push pull , this is normal right ? Happy new year for everybody in the forum !
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ShoBud The Professional 72.Emmons PP D10 83. Fender Stringmaster, triple neck. 1927 Weissenborn style 1. Fender Twin Reverb 77. Fender Princeton Reverb 78. |
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Bob Watson
From:
Champaign, Illinois, U.S.
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Posted 3 Jan 2012 10:04 pm
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Ariel, I have been playing pedal steel guitar for 37 years. The first 30 were on a Sho Bud Professional and the last 7 have been on a P/P Emmons. They are both great guitars. The Emmons pedals and knee levers are a little stiffer. Happy New Year to you!
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richard burton
From:
Britain
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Posted 3 Jan 2012 10:07 pm
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If the push-pull still has the factory set-up, you'll definately notice that it is physically harder to play than an all-pull.
Push-pulls can be made to play easier, by adding raise helper springs, getting rid of those little shock springs on the collars, getting rid of the springs that hold the pedals up etc.
I added fine-tuners to the bellcranks on my PP, this enabled me to lose the shock springs.
I did something to the area where the pedal rod hooks to under the steel (can't remember now what I did) which enabled me to get rid of the hold-up springs.
On strings that raise and lower, I attached raise helper springs from the raise finger to the lowering push rod.
By adding helper springs to the raises, it enabled me to slightly slacken off the springs that hold the lowers to the body, thus making the knee levers easier too. |
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Ariel Lobos
From:
Buenos Aires, Argentina
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Posted 4 Jan 2012 4:50 am
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Thank you guys, great information , you can imagine living here its not easy to change the factory setup , but i'll consider in future , my technician is good enough. What kind of shoes you think are best for the push pull ? I play with mocasin type in the sho bud .
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ShoBud The Professional 72.Emmons PP D10 83. Fender Stringmaster, triple neck. 1927 Weissenborn style 1. Fender Twin Reverb 77. Fender Princeton Reverb 78. |
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Ken Metcalf
From:
San Antonio Texas USA
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Posted 4 Jan 2012 5:37 am
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Bobby Bowman set up my PP and it plays pretty easy.
Bobby's PP has helper springs and plays extremely easy.
Need to lose some of those springs for sure.
There are two schools of thought on this like everything else.
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MSA 12 String E9th/B6th Universal.
Little Walter PF-89.
Bunch of stomp boxes |
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chris ivey
From:
california (deceased)
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Posted 4 Jan 2012 11:03 am
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ariel...man-up and wear cowboy boots. mocassins are for indians...unless they own a spirit-killing casino.
push pulls don't need helper springs and should have shock springs in specific areas. richard is a helper spring fanatic. a precision adjustment (that you can learn through experimentation and tweaking) can make an old emmons very comfortable and easy to play.
i played a sho-bud professional for ten years, also. |
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Ariel Lobos
From:
Buenos Aires, Argentina
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Posted 8 Jan 2012 3:14 pm
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Ha Ha , I overlooked your answer Chris...I tried with cowboy boots but i dont think they are confortable , wait, ill start a new topic ... Im doing with the Emmons , its take time i guess , just a little bit of energy
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ShoBud The Professional 72.Emmons PP D10 83. Fender Stringmaster, triple neck. 1927 Weissenborn style 1. Fender Twin Reverb 77. Fender Princeton Reverb 78. |
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Carson Leighton
From:
N.B. Canada
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Posted 8 Jan 2012 3:31 pm
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| Ariel,,my pedals where a little stiff on my p/p but it was the pedals and shaft had gummed up over the years..I took the pedal rack apart and cleaned the whole thing and re-lubed it.. The pedals work real easy now...Carson |
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Ariel Lobos
From:
Buenos Aires, Argentina
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Posted 8 Jan 2012 6:50 pm
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Great Carson ! i ll try it , maybe that helps
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ShoBud The Professional 72.Emmons PP D10 83. Fender Stringmaster, triple neck. 1927 Weissenborn style 1. Fender Twin Reverb 77. Fender Princeton Reverb 78. |
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Ariel Lobos
From:
Buenos Aires, Argentina
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Posted 8 Jan 2012 6:57 pm
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What lubricant ? Regards
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ShoBud The Professional 72.Emmons PP D10 83. Fender Stringmaster, triple neck. 1927 Weissenborn style 1. Fender Twin Reverb 77. Fender Princeton Reverb 78. |
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Carson Leighton
From:
N.B. Canada
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Posted 9 Jan 2012 4:41 am
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| Ariel,,I used wheel bearing grease mixed with a few drops of 3 in 1 oil..The grease was quite thick by itself..I'm sure there are other lubricants that would work just as well..It made a big difference...Regards,,,Carson |
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