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Topic: George L cable & plugs? |
Len Amaral
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Rehoboth,MA 02769
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Posted 8 Dec 2011 6:32 pm |
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Who sells the new Right angle and straight pluges & cable for George L?
Thanks,
Lenny |
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Hook Moore
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South Charleston,West Virginia
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Paddy Long
From:
Christchurch, New Zealand
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Posted 8 Dec 2011 8:01 pm
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So does AL Brisco at steel guitar canada
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David Nugent
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Gum Spring, Va.
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Posted 9 Dec 2011 3:02 am
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| Hi Len..You might check your local music store, a few stores here in Richmond now carry George L products. |
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Jack Stoner
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Kansas City, MO
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Posted 9 Dec 2011 5:59 am
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| Not that I have anything against Al Brisco or our friends in Canada, but it would be easier for someone in a certain country to buy from someone in that country, if possible. Avoids all the potential Customs hassles and charges. |
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Don Sulesky
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Citrus County, FL, Orig. from MA & NH
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Posted 9 Dec 2011 7:01 am
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Musician's Friend also sells them as a package with the cable.
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Mitch Adelman
From:
Pennsylvania, USA
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Jack Stoner
From:
Kansas City, MO
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Posted 9 Dec 2011 7:45 am
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The right angle plugs shown on the pedals plus wharehouse web site are the old style plugs.
There is a "new improved" style right angle plug. |
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Mitch Adelman
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Pennsylvania, USA
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Posted 9 Dec 2011 7:50 am
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| Thanks Jack. Didn't know about the improved versions. |
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Len Amaral
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Rehoboth,MA 02769
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Posted 9 Dec 2011 2:05 pm
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Definately looking for the new style right angle plugs and the straight plugs with the knurled ends as they are easier to plug in and remove from a guitar jack.
Thanks,
Lenny |
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Greg Wisecup
From:
Troy, Ohio
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Posted 12 Dec 2011 8:53 am
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Steel Guitar Nashville. .............also has very nice long sleeve t shirts!
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Chuck Walker
From:
Cody, Wyoming, USA
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Benjamin Jayne
From:
Orange County California, USA
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Posted 14 Dec 2011 2:26 pm
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I hate to sound naive, but can someone explain these cables to me? I've heard many musicians praise how great they sound, but there are multiple options and it appears they need to be made by hand after purchase...are any tools or electronic expertise needed? Is there a certain combination of features (diameter and plug metal type) that is best suited for PSG? I love good tone, but have always been scared away from these products due to my inexperience and their cost. Anyone with George L cables want to chime in?
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Richard Sinkler
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aka: Rusty Strings -- Missoula, Montana
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Posted 14 Dec 2011 7:07 pm
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I use George L cables and to tell the truth, I don't see all the hype around them. I got caught up in the frenzy a while back where everyone said "you gotta have 'em". I still use short GL cables from guitar to volume pedal and effects, but have gone to Pro-Co or Whirlwind cables for the long run to the amp. The main reason is because the .155 cable doesn't lay flat, no matter what I try. The right angle plugs with the screw cap, the cap always comes loose and I get terrible buzzes from them. I have actually taken Pro_Co/Whirlwind cables and tried them in place of the short GL's, and I get less buzz. I notice absolutely no change in tone at all.
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Jack Stoner
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Kansas City, MO
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Posted 15 Dec 2011 3:16 am
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The George L's cable is very low capacitance - approx 24 pf per foot, as measured on a Sencore capcitance tester (thanks to Blake Hawkins). A low capacitance cable will have a better frequency response and not "color" the signal. There are other low capacitance cables around, but it's hit and miss trying to find them.
Being an old electronics tech (and ex amp tech) I always used Belden cable and I used (I Think) 8412 shielded audio cable and Switchcraft jacks to make my own as years ago that was the "best" cable. I bought some George L's in St Louis the first year it was available and tried them on my 81 Franklin D-10 and it opened up the high end frequencies that I didn't realize I was missing. I've used George L's ever since.
About 10 years ago, Guitar Player magazine did a "shoot out" with guitar cables that were available at the time including some high end cables. George L's came out #1 in their evaluations. |
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Richard Sinkler
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aka: Rusty Strings -- Missoula, Montana
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Posted 15 Dec 2011 11:52 am
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Jack... Was that the blue Belden cable. I used to use that in the old days too. Was told that was the best at that time.
I am thinking about getting the new style right angle plugs to try in place of the screw cap types.
But, like I said, I can't hear the difference. And after tripping over the cable (by me and other band members), I had to get the cable to lay flat, which the GL just wouldn't do.
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Jack Stoner
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Kansas City, MO
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Posted 15 Dec 2011 2:41 pm
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| What I used was black rubberized jacket cable. I bought it in the mid 70's and I don't think the Blue was available then. |
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Richard Sinkler
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aka: Rusty Strings -- Missoula, Montana
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Posted 15 Dec 2011 6:00 pm
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I had the blue in the mid-late 70's. My friend and guitar player's dad owned an electronics store, and we got it through there.
I sure wish the GL cable was rubber jacketed. It's easier to lay down on stage.
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Tony Rankin
From:
Land O’ Lakes, FL
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Posted 15 Dec 2011 6:38 pm In case you did not know...
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Show Pro has taken over the George L's steel guitar accessories line. Their service is very quick. Jeff and Gloria are great people and are very customer oriented.
showprosteelguitars.com
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Jack Stoner
From:
Kansas City, MO
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Posted 16 Dec 2011 3:12 am
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I was at the George L's shop in Madison back in August. She told me Show Pro (Jeff) has taken over the line of steel guitar parts that George L's did not manufacture and just resold, such as the rubber feet, nylon tuning nuts, etc.
You can order direct from George L's via their web site. http://www.georgelsstore.com/ |
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Gary Reed
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Posted 8 Jan 2012 8:09 pm
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Any difference in the sound of the .155 to the .225 cables.
I've read there is no difference, but you can't believe all you read.
Does the .225 cable lay flat on the floor somewhat better instead of curling up off the floor as mentioned earlier?
Any other considerations before a major re-wire? |
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Mike Wheeler
From:
Delaware, Ohio, USA
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Posted 9 Jan 2012 7:34 am
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There's no difference in sound. The .225 version is a little tougher because of it's larger size, and withstands being walked on much better.
As to the curling issue...I've used GL .155 cables for many years and have not had any problems with not laying flat. I roll up the cables very carefully in a coil about 8 inches in diameter. If you use the old figure eight method you'll get curls galore!
I think regular guitar players like the .225 better because of moving around on a stage and stepping on it more.
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George Seymour
From:
Notown, Vermont, USA
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Richard Sinkler
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aka: Rusty Strings -- Missoula, Montana
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Posted 10 Jan 2012 2:37 pm
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I roll my .155 caqbles in about a 5" circle so they will fit in the compartment in my pak-a-seat and they coil up when they lay on the floor. I also had the problem with it the first time used, straight off the coil they came from George L on. The Proco/Whirlwind cables also get rolled in the same size coil and they lay flat on the floor. I can't tell you how many times someone in the band tripped over those damn George L cables laying across the stage.
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