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Dave A. Burley
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Franklin, In. USA
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Posted 12 Dec 2011 10:19 pm |
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Does anyone out there know what happened to Phil Baugh's pedal guitar after he passed? Phil was a friend and I admired his playing, especially with Emmons, and would really like to have a guitar like his with the pedals on the floor. Thanks for any info.
Dave A. Burley
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Jerry Hayes
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Virginia Beach, Va.
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Posted 13 Dec 2011 11:34 am
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Dave, you might contact Reece Anderson as MSA built the unit that Phil had. They might make one for you if the price was right as I don't think you're going to find a used one.........JH in Va.
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Mike Cass
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Posted 13 Dec 2011 12:23 pm
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I believe Phil's son has the last pedal guitar rig. The first one he had was indeed made by Maurice. In about '72 I heard him use it along with a Gibson Les Paul guitar at an MSA dealers show in Mpls. sponsored by Suneson's Music which featured Phil, Curly Chalker and Maurice. However, the last incarnation consisted of a Peavey electric guitar fitted with a cable operated pedal mechanism designed and built by Paul Franklin Sr.
I worked @ The Sound Factory and did cartage for Phil in the fall of '84/winter of '85 and set the whole outfit up, synth and all, a number of times at various sessions and gigs that he did during that period. Very cool rig. Sure miss Phil.... |
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Dave Harmonson
From:
Seattle, Wa
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Posted 13 Dec 2011 12:39 pm
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I saw one a number of years back at a guitar shop just north of Seattle. The one I saw was a Peavey with 3 pedals attached to the 1st 3 strings. I've played b-bender guitars since '76 but it felt very awkward. They had it set up on a playing stand so that was part of what felt weird to me. Don't have any idea who bought it.
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John Billings
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Ohio, USA
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Posted 13 Dec 2011 1:04 pm
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| There was one for sale, mounted to a Tele, a few years ago in Vintage Guitar. I almost bought it, but didn't want to pay for another Tele. They are out there. |
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Ronald Cid
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Contrecoeur, Quebec, Canada
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Posted 13 Dec 2011 5:46 pm
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| Phil's son is a friend on Facebook, I can ask him if you want Thanks RC |
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Darvin Willhoite
From:
Roxton, Tx. USA
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Posted 13 Dec 2011 7:00 pm
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I have a Peavey T60 with a pedal attachment, but it looks different from MSA's unit that Phil used. I never found out who built this one, someone suggested that Dekley built it as a prototype. It works but needs the bridge re-designed, the strings don't last long. That'll probably be one of my retirement projects.
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Darvin Willhoite
MSA Millennium, Legend, and Studio Pro, Reese's restored Universal Direction guitar, a restored MSA Classic SS, several amps, new and old, and a Kemper Powerhead that I am really liking. Also a Zum D10, a Mullen RP, and a restored Rose S10, named the "Blue Bird". Also, I have acquired and restored the plexiglass D10 MSA Classic that was built as a demo in the early '70s. I also have a '74 lacquer P/P, with wood necks, and a showroom condition Sho-Bud Super Pro. |
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Reece Anderson
From:
Keller Texas USA, R.I.P.
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Posted 15 Dec 2011 10:47 am
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The pedal unit Darvin posted in this thread was designed and engineered at MSA in late 1981, and we still have all the machine drawings. We also have a film of two local guitar players demonstrating the “guitar pedal attachment” at the MSA factory. (Jerry Metheny and Leland Green)
The unit pictured is a second generation design, which differed slightly from the first which was made for Phil Baugh. |
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Richard Sinkler
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aka: Rusty Strings -- Missoula, Montana
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Posted 15 Dec 2011 10:54 am
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Too cool. How were the raised/lowered (pedaled) notes tuned (like our nylon tuning nuts would do)? What strings were affected and to what pitches?
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Louie Hallford
From:
denison tx
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Posted 15 Dec 2011 11:09 am
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Darvin, how long have you had this guitar. You have shown me your collection,I do not recall seeing that guitar.
By the way was listening to a gospel CD this week that you gave me a few years ago. Some of the material I assumed was original. Did you write some of the songs and was that you doing the vocals.
One last question were you playing all the instuments? If so you must have put a lot of time in on it. |
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Reece Anderson
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Keller Texas USA, R.I.P.
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Posted 15 Dec 2011 2:43 pm
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Richard S.....IF memory serves correct, the pedals were tuned using the allen set screws shown in the 4th picture. I don't remember how the pedals were tuned, but a man named Jack Peterson (who was the guitar/teacher professor at North Texas University at the time) created a very workable pedal setup. The setup could however be easily changed to any players liking. It was designed to change one string either up or down with each pedal, and it could be setup ready to play very quickly by use of a quick connect/release system.
As I recall, the 6th string would lower so far when the activating pedal was fully depressed, one could take their fingers and gently lift the string off the nut, then when replacing it, and the pedal released, it would pull it back up to the standard bass E note. |
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Darvin Willhoite
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Roxton, Tx. USA
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Posted 15 Dec 2011 7:26 pm
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Louie, you didn't see all of my collection, I have two large closets upstairs full of stuff. I've had the pedal guitar probably 12 or 13 years, it was an Ebay find back when there were some good deals to be had on Ebay.
I didn't write any of the songs on that CD, a couple of them were written by good friends of mine, Craig Crowder, and Larry Wilson. Yeah, that was me trying to sing and I played everything but the drums, my son played those and engineered the recording. I wanted someone else to play the fiddle, but couldn't find anyone locally that would do it, so I did it myself. I've messed around with the fiddle off and on for a long time, but I'm sure not a fiddle player. It did take a while to record this project in between other projects, and working 60 hour weeks, but I finally got it done. I listen to it now and it doesn't sound that good. We upgraded a lot of the studio equipment since this was recorded around 12 years ago, and my son and I both have a lot more recording experience.
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Darvin Willhoite
MSA Millennium, Legend, and Studio Pro, Reese's restored Universal Direction guitar, a restored MSA Classic SS, several amps, new and old, and a Kemper Powerhead that I am really liking. Also a Zum D10, a Mullen RP, and a restored Rose S10, named the "Blue Bird". Also, I have acquired and restored the plexiglass D10 MSA Classic that was built as a demo in the early '70s. I also have a '74 lacquer P/P, with wood necks, and a showroom condition Sho-Bud Super Pro. |
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Darvin Willhoite
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Roxton, Tx. USA
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Posted 15 Dec 2011 7:33 pm
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Reece, you are exactly right, the pedals are tuned by the allen screws. Any string can be raised or lowered, and there are two positions for raise and two for lower, the outer holes provide more travel than the holes closest to the center. I haven't even had it out of the closet for several years, I need to get it out and play with it a bit now that I have a little more time for these things.
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Darvin Willhoite
MSA Millennium, Legend, and Studio Pro, Reese's restored Universal Direction guitar, a restored MSA Classic SS, several amps, new and old, and a Kemper Powerhead that I am really liking. Also a Zum D10, a Mullen RP, and a restored Rose S10, named the "Blue Bird". Also, I have acquired and restored the plexiglass D10 MSA Classic that was built as a demo in the early '70s. I also have a '74 lacquer P/P, with wood necks, and a showroom condition Sho-Bud Super Pro. |
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Sonny Priddy
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Elizabethtown, Kentucky, USA, R.I.P.
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Posted 16 Dec 2011 7:33 am Pedal Guitar
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| I Saw Phil play his At One Of Jeff Newmans Jams In 1981 Was The Year I Think, SONNY, |
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Brint Hannay
From:
Maryland, USA
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James Mayer
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back in Portland Oregon, USA (via Arkansas and London, UK)
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Posted 11 Jan 2012 10:45 am
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Alan Brookes
From:
Brummy living in Southern California
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Posted 11 Jan 2012 11:10 am
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I just watched Reece's video. It's long, but I would recommend anyone who builds instruments to watch it. It's very informative. and well produced. 
Last edited by Alan Brookes on 11 Jan 2012 9:12 pm; edited 1 time in total |
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Darvin Willhoite
From:
Roxton, Tx. USA
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Posted 11 Jan 2012 7:15 pm
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I just watched the video, the part that attaches to the guitar is identical to mine, but my pedals are a little different.
BTW, nice beard Reece. 
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Darvin Willhoite
MSA Millennium, Legend, and Studio Pro, Reese's restored Universal Direction guitar, a restored MSA Classic SS, several amps, new and old, and a Kemper Powerhead that I am really liking. Also a Zum D10, a Mullen RP, and a restored Rose S10, named the "Blue Bird". Also, I have acquired and restored the plexiglass D10 MSA Classic that was built as a demo in the early '70s. I also have a '74 lacquer P/P, with wood necks, and a showroom condition Sho-Bud Super Pro. |
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Russell Chudnofsky
From:
Massachusetts, USA
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Posted 20 Feb 2015 8:49 am Resurrecting old thread on pedal steel/electric gtr hybrid
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| I've posted a new video at http://youtu.be/i-XejSDKvl4 of me playing "I'm on Fire" (Bruce Springsteen) performed on a hybrid guitar/pedal steel I bought a while back from Darvin W. (from this thread). It's a fantastic sounding instrument made by MSA Pedal Steels back in the early 80s using a Peavey T60 electric guitar. As cool as it is, it's also problematic. For one, it does not stay in tune for too long. It's also extremely heavy and cumbersome. I tried building a similar guitar with hexaphonic pickups and individual digital pitch bender pedals for each string, but the string bleed through was too much. I'd be curious if anyone knows others that have taken stabs at constructing a similar sort of guitar/steel hybrid and would want to share ideas. Please let me know. |
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chris ivey
From:
california (deceased)
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Posted 20 Feb 2015 9:53 am
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| check out the thread on jimmie hudson building one for andy eder recently...maybe someone can link that. i wonder if andy has approved that guitar yet? |
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Ian Worley
From:
Sacramento, CA
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Jerry Hedge
From:
Norwood Ohio U.S.A.
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Posted 20 Feb 2015 8:50 pm
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| I remember seeing a pedal guitar that Deckley had built one year at NAMM. I had read an article in Guitar Player on Phil's MSA pedal guitar. He had it set up on a Les Paul, then I saw another picture a few years after that with the pedal rig on a Gibson L-5S that Phil was playing. The pedal action was rather stiff, but I wanted one. I STILL want one!!! After I saw the Deckley I thought about buying a couple of old Multi-Kord six strings that were sitting in pieces in the basement of the music store I was working in. I wanted to mount a Multi-Kord mechanism on a Telecaster with a roller bridge. I should have. |
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Chris Templeton
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The Green Mountain State
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