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Topic: Converting a E9 single neck to C6, Things to consider |
Fred Glave
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McHenry, Illinois, USA
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Posted 19 Nov 2011 9:19 am |
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I would like to have an ultra light S-10 C6 set up, much in the same tradition as the Stage-One or Legend etc. Besides replacing the roller nuts, and maybe modifying the tuning rods, what else would I need to consider?
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Skip Edwards
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LA,CA
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Posted 19 Nov 2011 10:15 am
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| If you ever use both feet on the pedals, I'd think about locating the pedals closer to the center of the gtr, like they would be on a D10. |
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chris ivey
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california (deceased)
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Posted 19 Nov 2011 2:41 pm
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| another consideration is that a normal c6 setup usually incorporates 5 or 6 floor pedals. |
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Lane Gray
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Topeka, KS
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Posted 19 Nov 2011 4:38 pm
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"Standard" C6 copedent has 5+1.
You could take a 3*4 or 3*5 guitar and move some standard pedals up to knees, and have 1 or 2 more knees to add on.
Ideally, if you ask me, two of the following should reside on pedals and two on opposing knees (or on LK, with one going up): 5, 6, 7 and 8.
But it wouldn't pose much difficulty.
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Fred Glave
From:
McHenry, Illinois, USA
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Posted 20 Nov 2011 8:04 am
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I'm thinking of keeping it simple, that would keep my goal of having a ultra light steel, easy to travel with and set up. (I'd rather have two ultra light modern steels, than one heavy beast that strains my aging back). I've never had a C6 neck that had more than 5 & 1. I rarely used the usual pedal 4 or 8 on top of that. With a 3 & 4, I'd have more than I usually use. That would also give me the opportunity to ad pulls that I could really use on the levers and I would actually have a net increase in usable changes. It sounds like the biggest mod that I would have to make is the roller nuts. Does that sound right?
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David Mason
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Cambridge, MD, USA
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Posted 20 Nov 2011 9:19 am
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I play a designated S10 C6th Carter with 5+5, and I would say that moving the pedals to the center is important too. You only find out about two-footing it when you can't get "it" any easier way.  And there's always another "it", isn't there? |
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b0b
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Cloverdale, CA, USA
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Posted 20 Nov 2011 10:16 am
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I can set up an ETS as C6th for you. I'm sort of itching to do that, actually. See the guitars I have in stock at www.steelguitarshopper.com/ETS-S10.
Also, I've found that the common 2-footed maneuvers can be avoided if you put the P7 changes on a knee lever. I have them on LKR and I never feel the need to use both feet on the pedals.
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Richard Sinkler
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aka: Rusty Strings -- Missoula, Montana
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Posted 20 Nov 2011 1:21 pm
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Same here B0B. I also put pedal 8 on a lever.
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LKL LKV LKR 5 6 7 8 9 RKL RKR
D................................D#
E....................D#......F
C.........D...............................B.....D
A.........Bb...Bb/B.............................B
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C...C#...............................B
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F...E.....................F#
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Lane Gray
From:
Topeka, KS
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Posted 20 Nov 2011 4:00 pm
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I like that bluegrass TIFKADĀ¹ with P9 and RKR. If I hadn't migrated to an 8, I'd lean towards that
Ā¹That Instrument Formerly Known As Dobro
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Richard Sinkler
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Posted 20 Nov 2011 5:19 pm
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Lane, that is a cool combination and I put it on to use with my dobro simulator. I will admit, I rarely use it any more. But, I can't bring myself to change it. The 8th pedal is used with that combination also to give me a 7th by lowering the G to F and a minor up top with string 1 raised to D#. I really should start using it again.
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Fred Glave
From:
McHenry, Illinois, USA
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Posted 21 Nov 2011 9:40 am
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bOb, that's kind of what I had in mind by keeping the 3 core pedals that I use on the floor. I'd have those other moves on levers along with a couple more. Leaving the pedals to left is not a bad thing for me. When the pedals are further to the right, I have a harder time with the left knee levers and foot agility/comfort. So unless the levers can be adjusted over to the right I'd like them where they are. Just having 3 on the floor will keep it light and comfortable. A footnote, though is that this isn't meant to be the "end all kick butt set up" for a C6 steel, just a light weight modern steel that can do what I can't get an E9 to do. Those ETS steels look mighty purty.
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