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Topic: What does your zero pedal do? |
Mike Perlowin
From: Los Angeles CA
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Georg Sørtun
From: Mandal, Agder, Norway
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Posted 25 Sep 2011 9:02 am
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Mine lowers both B strings to A.
G# to G is achieved (on both G# strings) by raising 1/2 step on B pedal and lower 1/1 step on RKL - split tuning to get them accurate. |
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Larry Bell
From: Englewood, Florida
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Posted 25 Sep 2011 9:09 am
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That change (G# to G) works well there, as you know. I've had that change there in the past -- it works well with the B pedal for a IV7 chord. Mooney used G# to G a lot, both with the B to C# and separately for the minor 3rd.
I've also had B to A with G# to F# on a lever, but now I have the Franklin pedal -- both B's to A and G# to F#. On my U12 guitars I lower 5,6,9,and 10 a whole tone on that pedal. That's what works best for me, after trying a lot of other options. I've had a '0' pedal since the late 70s. _________________ Larry Bell - email: larry@larrybell.org - gigs - Home Page
My CD's: 'I've Got Friends in COLD Places' - 'Pedal Steel Guitar'
2021 Rittenberry S/D-12 8x7, 1976 Emmons S/D-12 7x6, 1969 Emmons S/D-12 6x6, 1971 Dobro, Quilter ToneBlock 202 TT-12 |
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Earnest Bovine
From: Los Angeles CA USA
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Posted 25 Sep 2011 10:29 am
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I like string 6 G# up to ++ A# which works well alone or in various combinations such as with the "A pedal" to sound like pedal 6 on the typical C6 setup of 40 years ago. |
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Richard Sinkler
From: aka: Rusty Strings -- Missoula, Montana
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Posted 25 Sep 2011 10:31 am
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Standard Franklin pedal. _________________ Carter D10 8p/8k, Dekley S10 3p/4k C6 setup,Regal RD40 Dobro, Recording King Professional Dobro, NV400, NV112,Ibanez Gio guitar, Epiphone SG Special (open D slide guitar) . Playing for 54 years and still counting. |
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Kevin Hatton
From: Buffalo, N.Y.
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Posted 25 Sep 2011 11:05 am
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My zero pedal does nothing. |
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Dan Beller-McKenna
From: Durham, New Hampshire, USA
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Posted 25 Sep 2011 5:55 pm
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Since I lower 10 a whole step (B-A) on my A pedal, I raise 10 B-C# and 6 G#-A on my zero pedal to get those lower chord voicings normally achieved with A+B.
Dan |
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Bill Moran
From: Virginia, USA
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Posted 25 Sep 2011 6:22 pm
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Strange post ? _________________ Bill |
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Jerry Hayes
From: Virginia Beach, Va.
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Posted 25 Sep 2011 7:50 pm
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My zero pedal lowers string 3 G# to G and raises string 7 F# to G#. The 3rd string is for some Mooney things and the 7th string is my "Brumley" pedal. I use that one a lot......JH in Va. _________________ Don't matter who's in Austin (or anywhere else) Ralph Mooney is still the king!!! |
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Tony Glassman
From: The Great Northwest
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Posted 25 Sep 2011 7:53 pm
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my "zero" pedal does nothing. |
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Brint Hannay
From: Maryland, USA
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Posted 25 Sep 2011 8:31 pm
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I'm with Earnest--my zero pedal is 6th string G# to ++A#. |
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Jim Gilliam
From: Durham, North Carolina
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Posted 26 Sep 2011 6:48 am
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New guy here... What the heck is a zero pedal? Sounds like the pea splitter that the mess seargant had me running around to the other mess halls looking for back in the 60's. |
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Morton Kellas
From: Chazy, NY, USA 1
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Posted 26 Sep 2011 7:23 am
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I raise my 1st F# to G# and my second D# to E. This allows me to maintain my RKL raising the 1st F# to G and lowering the 6th G# to F# (split)with a much softer lever action that I am used to. It works well there if you use the Emmons set up, but that's just me. |
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Mike Perlowin
From: Los Angeles CA
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Posted 26 Sep 2011 7:32 am
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Jim, A zero pedal is a 4th pedal to the left of the A pedal, which can be played by itself, or together with the A pedal, the same way the A and B pedals are played together. As this thread shows, there are a lot of different possible uses for it.
Since you're a newbie, don't worry about it. You have a lot to learn about the standard pedals and knee levers before you start thinking about optional extras. _________________ Please visit my web site and Soundcloud page and listen to the music posted there.
http://www.mikeperlowin.com http://soundcloud.com/mike-perlowin |
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Chris Johnson
From: USA
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Posted 26 Sep 2011 10:19 am
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Lowers my low bass E to a C# and my high E to a D. It's amazing what voicing can be done with combinations on the E neck with that pedal. |
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Dustin Cook
From: California
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Posted 27 Sep 2011 8:44 pm I'm with Morton
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Raise 1&2 |
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Lane Gray
From: Topeka, KS
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Posted 11 Oct 2011 10:39 am
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I'm with Dustin. 1+1, 2+½.
Contemplating putting P5 (first one right of C) to work on both necks for the 5&6 Franklin Drop. |
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Steve Nelson
From: Wisconsin, USA
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Posted 20 Jan 2012 9:10 pm zero pedal wish list
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I was thinking about putting a zero pedal on my MSA S12 this one is not the Universal...I think you've seen my posts on this mine was a E9 extended, it had the D as the 9th string.
What I wanted to do was raise the G# a whole step. This, at the time, would have given me a jazzier sound when I lowered my E strings to Eb (B6 tuning, kinda). When I saw someone tonight using a D12 Mullen he had the 0 pedal doing the drop from E to C#, I thought this is cool too.
My guitar now is a EMCI Uni 12, 7+4. But....I still want that zero pedal....without going to the C6 (in my case B6) pedals. |
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Lane Gray
From: Topeka, KS
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Posted 20 Jan 2012 9:54 pm
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unless they started with P2 or P3 (wouldn't surprise me with only 7 pedals), you'd have to rerod the whole guitar, which isn't too difficult, just time consuming.
Just make a chart of what you have first, then duplicate it a slot over. Doesn't P4 already raise the G#? _________________ 2 pedal steels, a lapStrat, and an 8-string Dobro (and 3 ukes)
More amps than guitars, and not many effects |
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Tony Prior
From: Charlotte NC
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Posted 21 Jan 2012 4:29 am
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drops 5,6 and 10 a whole tone _________________ Emmons L-II , Fender Telecasters, B-Benders , Eastman Mandolin ,
Pro Tools 12 on WIN 7 !
jobless- but not homeless- now retired 9 years
CURRENT MUSIC TRACKS AT > https://tprior2241.wixsite.com/website |
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Matteo Strazzolini
From: Udine, Italy
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Posted 21 Jan 2012 5:34 am
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Franklin Change. _________________ Carter D10 8+5, Carter SD10 4+5, Hilton ME202, Goodrich L120, Peterson StroboPlus HD, Digitech DigiDelay, Peavey Nashville 112 Ken Fox Modded, Peavey Special 130 Ken Fox Modded, Zookies and Dunlop Picks, Ernie Ball Bar, George L'S Cables, Jagwire Strings... and my crappy hands, foot and knees |
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Johnny Cox
From: Williamsom WVA, raised in Nashville TN, Lives in Hallettsville Texas
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Posted 21 Jan 2012 9:28 am
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Nothing, I still just call them 1 - 9. _________________ Johnny "Dumplin" Cox
"YANKIN' STRINGS & STOMPIN' PEDALS" since 1967. |
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Lane Gray
From: Topeka, KS
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Posted 21 Jan 2012 9:37 am
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Fine, Mr. Herndon . Do you have a pedal to the left of the A pedal and is so, what does it do? _________________ 2 pedal steels, a lapStrat, and an 8-string Dobro (and 3 ukes)
More amps than guitars, and not many effects |
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Dan Galysh
From: Hendersonville, Tennessee, USA
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Posted 21 Jan 2012 10:24 am
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I wish Johnny Cox had a "like" button. |
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Richard Sinkler
From: aka: Rusty Strings -- Missoula, Montana
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Posted 21 Jan 2012 12:06 pm
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Johnny Cox said:
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Nothing, I still just call them 1 - 9. |
Me too. _________________ Carter D10 8p/8k, Dekley S10 3p/4k C6 setup,Regal RD40 Dobro, Recording King Professional Dobro, NV400, NV112,Ibanez Gio guitar, Epiphone SG Special (open D slide guitar) . Playing for 54 years and still counting. |
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