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Paul Fry


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Frankfort, Indiana, USA
Post  Posted 23 Sep 2011 4:59 pm    
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I just upgraded to the newest Hilton pedal and still am getting a hummm. I know its not my cables or amp because its still there even when I'm playing thru my headphones. Could the volume and tone pots on my steel be bad? If they are,what are the quietest pots? Thanks for any advice!
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Georg Sørtun


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Mandal, Agder, Norway
Post  Posted 23 Sep 2011 5:50 pm    
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Try your equipment with an instrument with a humbucker PU that is known to be silent installed, before searching for flaws in the rest of the sound-chain.
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Carl Kilmer


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East Central, Illinois
Post  Posted 24 Sep 2011 5:17 am    
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Hi Paul. Most likely it's the pickup picking a 60 cycle hum
from your amp being being too close to your steel. I've got
2 different single coil pu's and if my my Peavey or Fender
amps are within 10 feet of the steel, I get a very loud hum.
The closer the amp is to the steel, the louder the hum gets.
If I use my Walker Stereo Steel amp, I don't have a problem.
My other steel has the Alumitone pickup and I don't have any
hum problem with any amp being too close. I also use Hilton
pedals. If you plug your steel directly into the amp, the hum
will still be there. Move the amp further away from the steel
and you'll most likely notice the hum will be a lot lower. Smile Smile
Carl "Lucky" Kilmer
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Richard Sinkler


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aka: Rusty Strings -- Missoula, Montana
Post  Posted 24 Sep 2011 12:01 pm    
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If he is talking about the MSA in his signature, didn't MSA use humbucking pickups? Not to say that they couldn't go bad and be causing the problem.
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Paul Fry


From:
Frankfort, Indiana, USA
Post  Posted 25 Sep 2011 3:47 pm    
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Richard, yes I'm playing the MSA. Haven't had a chance to move the amp farther away yet Carl, but I'll try that tomorrow and let you know what happens. Thanks!
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Keith Davidson


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Nova Scotia, Canada
Post  Posted 27 Sep 2011 12:54 pm    
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Paul, I know you said it wasn't your cables but I mistakenly connected a balanced cable in the mix and had a hum, once I switched it to an unbalanced cable the hum dissapeared.
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Josh Yenne


From:
Sonoma California
Post  Posted 27 Sep 2011 8:24 pm    
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are you running the pedal stereo? You will get a hum if you are...

I bought a device called a Hum-X and it is a life saver... if you are getting ground hum from somewhere this thing will definitely kill it.. and supposedly it does not actually lift the ground so everything is still technically ground...

Not sure how it works but it just works! Running my Goodrich pedal in stereo I always had a hum... now I run one amp with the Hum-X and it is gone...

Can't remember whole makes it off the top of my head but do a search and it is easy to find.
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Bill Ferguson


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Milton, FL USA
Post  Posted 28 Sep 2011 12:17 pm    
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What kind of amp are you using?
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Paul Fry


From:
Frankfort, Indiana, USA
Post  Posted 28 Sep 2011 1:29 pm    
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Josh, my cables are all mono. Bill, I'm running through a Session 500. The reason I'm thinking its something on my steel is because the hum is there when I'm practicing through my headphones. I'm not even plugged into my amp. Of course its there when I'm running through the amp also.
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Bill Ferguson


From:
Milton, FL USA
Post  Posted 28 Sep 2011 1:38 pm    
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Have you tried running a cord straight from your steel to your amp and seeing if the hum is still there?
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Josh Yenne


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Sonoma California
Post  Posted 28 Sep 2011 2:11 pm    
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hmmm.. yea... I would guess the "ground" on your pickup is not connected as it should be... if it is a hum bucker then you shouldn't be hearing the 60 cycle.... check that it happens with the lights off... dimmers will give you a nasty buzz.. but it tends to be higher pitched and more of a buzz than a hum.
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Robert Mayo


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Georgia, USA
Post  Posted 29 Sep 2011 9:14 am    
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You may need a noisegate or hum debugger pedal in your chain.
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Steve Lipsey


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Portland, Oregon, USA
Post  Posted 30 Sep 2011 10:53 am    
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Not to hijack the thread...but this might be useful.
I have a hum problem also....
-2 Steels, Rains with Wallace Trutone single coil and Carpsteel with Alumitone (humbucker?)
-3 amps, 1 Matchless HC-30 head/cab, one Matchless Lightning combo (essentially a half-power version of the C-30) and one Epiphone Valve Jr. (for home practice).

All work fine except the Rains/Trutone with the Matchless Lightning. No hum at all with all other combinations of gear, monster hum with those two together. Tried moving the amp 15 feet away, didn't change it at all. Used a single cable, no pedals in between.

I don't think this sounds like a ground loop problem, right (only one thing plugged into the AC)? Or does it?
Any ideas where to look?
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