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Topic: Emmons Lashley LeGrande |
Brandon Bankes
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Zanesville, Ohio
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Posted 9 Sep 2011 9:07 pm |
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Ok, so in my search for a new Emmons I have for the first time discovered a new brand that didn't exist in my mind before: the Emmons Lashley LeGrande guitar.
I had no idea there was such a thing. I knew of the LeGrande, LeGrande II and III.. but no "Lashley LeGrande."
Can someone give me some info on these guitars? Is this the guitar that came out after the SKH models and before the II? Are these Short Key Head as well?
Never heard of it but I'm curious. Anyone owned one of these? Whats the difference between this and a II? |
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Dickie Whitley
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Posted 10 Sep 2011 5:19 am
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| They're one in the same. They are great sounding and playing steel guitars. My only complaint is it only has 2 lowers. That's only a personal view and does not take away from the sound or performance. |
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Dan Galysh
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Hendersonville, Tennessee, USA
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Posted 10 Sep 2011 7:22 am
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I play a '93 Lashley LeGrande. It has the long key head, but comes equipped with 14 hole bellcranks. Technically, a LeGrande II, as told to me by Jack Stayhorn who built my guitar.
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Erv Niehaus
From:
Litchfield, MN, USA
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Posted 10 Sep 2011 8:02 am
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| The Legrande II has the 14 hole bellcranks. |
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J Hollenberg
From:
Vlaardingen, The Netherlands
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Posted 10 Sep 2011 8:39 am
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I also have a '93 Emmons Lashley LeGrande with the 14 hole bellcranks.
I think it is as follows:
The first all pull is The Emmons LeGrande with or without the short keyhead.
Then came the Emmons Lashley LeGrande
Then the Emmons Lashley LeGrande II and finally the Emmons Lashley LeGrande III with the anti-detuning system.
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Sjaak Hollenberg
Emmons Lashley LeGrande SD10 from 1993 |
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Charlie McVay
From:
Pittsburgh, Pa. USA
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Posted 12 Sep 2011 9:26 pm Lashley LeGrande
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Hi Brandon,
In reference to our phone conversation the Lashley LeGrande is the same as a LeGrande II. The early Lashley LeGrande's had 4 hole bellcrank's and switched to 14 hole bellcrank's around mid 1993 to my knowledge, but were still called Lashey LeGrande's, like Dan Galyish's guitar.
I just did an overhaul on Dan Galyish's guitar. It's a killer sounding guitar, with 10x10. You can balance all the pulls better with the 14 hole bellcrank's.
I hope this is some help to you.
Charlie McVay
www.mcvaybenders.com
www.mcvaymusic.com |
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Bobby Boggs
From:
Upstate SC.
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Posted 12 Sep 2011 10:13 pm
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I've wrote about this before. But it seems to fall on deaf ears. While it true that the very last Lashley LeGrandes were indeed the same as the LII's. Serial #'s near 1000 and up in MOST cases. However, I know of true LL-II with a serial number in the low 800's. Very rare. Not sure how this happened.
A Lashley LeGrande with 14 hole bell cranks does not a LeGrande II make.
Jack Strayhorn wrote.
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| There were several changes, mostly to assembly techniques, between the Lashley Legrande and II. It is a misconception that only the bellcrank changed. We did very little to advertise the exact changes but the guitar spoke for itself. It was by far, a better playing guitar. Most of these changes were implemented by me, with the exception of the bellcrank. None of the changes that took place with the LeGrande guitars would have happened without the urging and advice from Hal Rugg. Hal wanted the cast keyhead, the 14 hole bellcrank, the changer re-alignment, and a cure for the cabinet drop. Not to say that others were not influential, but Hals relentless pleading for Ron to make improvements is what prompted these changes. |
A true LLII will have a slightly shorter changer throw than the Lashley LeGrandes with ONLY the 14 hole cranks.
Just my experience. I own both.
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Charlie McVay
From:
Pittsburgh, Pa. USA
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Posted 13 Sep 2011 12:32 pm Lashley LeGrande
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Bobby,
Thanks for that info, thats good to know. I sold these guitars up until 1995 and never knew anything about that, so thats music to my ears.You learn something new every day.
Thanks, Charlie |
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Bill Moran
From:
Virginia, USA
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Posted 14 Sep 2011 2:47 pm
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I guess that was a cutting loose from Buddy, Legrand Emmons ? I don't think Buddy had any input on the Legrand steels. I could be wrong but at the steel shows, when Emmons Guitar Co. was there, I was told that Buddy was not part of the company. Just Lashley.
They are great sounding guitars no matter who had input in the company.
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Jack Strayhorn
From:
Winston-Salem, NC
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Posted 15 Sep 2011 9:11 am
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| It was Buddies prompting that caused Ron Lashley to develop the LeGrande. Like all Emmons Co. designs they were all developed for Buddy. When the LeGrande was introduced Buddy was still an important part of the company and remained important even though not an endorser. |
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Brett Day
From:
Pickens, SC
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Posted 20 Sep 2011 2:43 pm
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The Lashley Legrande got its' name because of Ron Lashley)the Lashley) and Legrande was named because one of Buddy's favorite jazz musicians was a man named Michel Legrand-they decided to spell it Legrande instead of Legrand.
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