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Topic: Sticky change on C6 neck, Emmons D-10 p/p |
Bruce Wandmayer
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Sedona, AZ
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Posted 19 Aug 2011 11:05 pm |
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On the C6 neck of my Emmons p/p, when I press the G to F# lower—string 5, pedal 5 (or 2 of the C neck pedals)—the string just stays at F#, not returning to G when I release. I can move it back by hand (there's some resistance), but the return spring won't do it.
What I've tried:
light oil on the top of the tuner mechanism, where the strings roll over the top. No change.
Undid the collar, freeing the return spring, and checked the tension. Plenty of tension, pull power. I thought it might be weak, but it wasn't.
Also, when the spring tension was off, the mechanism moved freely, being held only by string tension. When I reset the return spring, the resistance came back.
When I hold the raise finger in full-raise position, then push the lowering mechanism and release it, the lowering mechanism comes right back to position. It just won't do it with the raise finger.
When I hold the lowering mechanism in full-lower, then pull only the raise finger and release it, the raise finger goes right to the lower position. No resistance.
It looks like each unit—raise and lower—will perform correctly on its own, but not together. The string changer return won't overcome the string tension and whatever else. Some crud in the changer?
Does anyone have any ideas before I go in and remove and dismantle the whole C6 changer mechanism?
I've never done it before, though I'm willing to take on the challenge. I'd just rather avoid the potential pitfalls if possible.
One more thing: where can I get Emmons p/p parts, like springs and things?
Thanks for any help.
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Bruce Wandmayer
Sedona, AZ
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Paul Wade
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Lynn Stafford
From:
Ridgefield, WA USA
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Posted 20 Aug 2011 9:24 am Emmons PP Problem
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Bruce,
Please check your email, as I'd like to be of help to you.
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Best regards,
Lynn Stafford
STEEL GUITAR WEST
http://www.steelguitarwest.com
Steel Guitar Technician (Restoration, Set-up, Service and Repair work)
Previous Emmons Authorized Dealer & Service Technician (original factory is now closed)
ZumSteel Authorized Service Technician
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Tony Glassman
From:
The Great Northwest
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Posted 20 Aug 2011 8:48 pm
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Does the lower rod extend beyond the lower finger of the changer and jam up between it and the raise finger?
It should be set up so the rod tip is not beyond the inner aspect of the lower finger. |
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richard burton
From:
Britain
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Posted 20 Aug 2011 10:58 pm
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| Check that the pedal, and the cross-shaft that it attaches to, are free to operate, as a sticking pedal/cross-shaft could be the cause of the problem |
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Bruce Wandmayer
From:
Sedona, AZ
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Posted 23 Aug 2011 1:01 pm
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I appreciate your responses and suggestions.
Lynn Stafford and I connected by email and phone, and got it sorted out: the changer was hanging up.
Per his instructions, I loosened the string and return spring on that finger, completely freeing it from tension. Then I blew it out with compressed air to dislodge anything that might have been stuck in it, then dripped light oil on it, both from the underside—with guitar in its case—and the top, with the guitar on its legs.
When I re-tensioned everything the finger worked perfectly—no resistance. He knows what he’s talking about.
BIG THANKS, Lynn!
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Bruce Wandmayer
Sedona, AZ
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chris ivey
From:
california (deceased)
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Posted 24 Aug 2011 12:35 pm
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| hi bruce....i bet it was a trailer park boogie man! |
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Ken Metcalf
From:
San Antonio Texas USA
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Posted 24 Aug 2011 2:07 pm
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| richard burton wrote: |
| Check that the pedal, and the cross-shaft that it attaches to, are free to operate, as a sticking pedal/cross-shaft could be the cause of the problem |
I just had to loosen and relax one of my rods that was slightly binding where the connects to the cross shaft.
Take the rod off and if the cross shaft returns freely when flipped with your finger.then that is a very likely suspect.
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MSA 12 String E9th/B6th Universal.
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Ken Metcalf
From:
San Antonio Texas USA
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Posted 24 Aug 2011 2:08 pm
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Never mind
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